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Old 01-05-2005, 12:21 PM   #16
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I've got some concerns regarding accuracy of the info provided....First off, it seems that the tag at the back says "Zonda R"(which actually makes sense)..Apart from that I doubt the Zonda S has downforce of 700kg at 320kph -it has 500kg at 300kph - so this might be another mistake.

Ahh...I've just come across a new article over at Autocar - hopefully more accurate

http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=212946
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Old 01-05-2005, 01:06 PM   #17
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These pictures show that the new Zonda will retain its elegant curves, but adopt race-car looks. A wider single-piece rear spoiler helps increase downforce by 40 per cent. Larger 19- and 20in alloys wheels hide bigger 385mm Brembo discs. Carbon-ceramic discs will be optional.
i think that Pagani must have done some wind tunnel research over the last few years, as there are some some segnificant differences... Mirrors as goodduck mentioned, rear spoiler cirtainly... but the spoiler alone causing 40% more D/F ? i dont think so... the previous Zonda had some major issues with the rear wing... some speculated that it was nothing more then a styling cue, and produces little to no D/F, which i wouldnt doubt.

reshaping a few key areas would likely be the result of more air assaulting the rear wing as its going 220 mph
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Old 01-05-2005, 01:13 PM   #18
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nice find, cant wait to see it tested in top gear around the track. definitly a sexy looking car. has the torque stayed the same or increased, that was always a strong point of the zonda and the 7.3L being around 550. anyways thanks for the info guys.
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Old 01-05-2005, 01:14 PM   #19
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From Autocar:
Pagani’s 220mph Zonda S is to get even faster with a host of wide-ranging updates for 2005. The 555bhp Zonda S is to be superseded by the lighter, 620bhp Zonda R.

Fitted with new intake and exhaust systems and a modified ECU, and with an estimated 50kg shaved off its kerbweight, the AMG-powered Zonda’s power-to-weight ratio will jump to more than 500bhp-per-tonne. It should be more than a match for the 484bhp-per-tonne Ferrari Enzo.
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Old 01-05-2005, 01:23 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by mv
I've got some concerns regarding accuracy of the info provided....First off, it seems that the tag at the back says "Zonda R"(which actually makes sense)..Apart from that I doubt the Zonda S has downforce of 700kg at 320kph -it has 500kg at 300kph - so this might be another mistake.

Ahh...I've just come across a new article over at Autocar - hopefully more accurate

http://www.autocar.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=212946
It is entirely plausible that an extra 200kg of dowmforce is applies at 20km/h more.... it may have adaptive elements to the wings etc...
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Old 01-05-2005, 02:32 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by thenumber1
It is entirely plausible that an extra 200kg of dowmforce is applies at 20km/h more.... it may have adaptive elements to the wings etc...
Really?...Well, as far as I know the Zonda S doesn't have adaptive wings in contrary to, for instance, the Enzo.
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:02 PM   #22
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^^^
The idea is that the car is a an evolution.... i.e. new technology is implemented.
Like the carbon-ceramic brakes.... they didn't appear on the S
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:39 PM   #23
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I guess I'm the one who should laugh...We're speaking about the Zonda S,the R-version is not involved !!! No adaptive wings,no new technology so I doubt it can have at once 500kg at 300kph and 700kg at 320kph...get it?
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Old 01-05-2005, 04:00 PM   #24
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Finallyt the Zonda gets thwe punch it deserves. 555BHP from a 7.3 litre engine dioesn't sound all that impressive, the extra 65HP and reducing the weight by 50 kilos should give the Enzo and the MC12 a run for their money. Can't wait to see the first tests
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Old 01-05-2005, 04:33 PM   #25
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I've been expecting this update!...great pics...thanks....I have to say I really disklike the headlights and the side mirror, the back looks better than the current one, but Pagani please stay away from those ugly headlights....
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Old 01-05-2005, 04:38 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Chaos in 1983!
I've been expecting this update!...great pics...thanks....I have to say I really disklike the headlights and the side mirror, the back looks better than the current one, but Pagani please stay away from those ugly headlights....
Gotta agree with you there, the lights at the front don't look as good, but they have improved the ass...I wasn't too fond of the old one...looked a bit too over the top to me.
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Old 01-05-2005, 05:40 PM   #27
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OMG i love it more than the current one, it's better in every update. IM IN LOVE!
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Old 01-05-2005, 05:49 PM   #28
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I cannot wait to see the evolution of the Zonda...the experience says me that it will be a trim of the car rather than a relevant update.......currently the car has two sides...on the one hand the car looks awesome in the front or glancing it from any side, whereas i dont fancy too much with the cars back
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Old 01-05-2005, 05:59 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by mv
I guess I'm the one who should laugh...We're speaking about the Zonda S,the R-version is not involved !!! No adaptive wings,no new technology so I doubt it can have at once 500kg at 300kph and 700kg at 320kph...get it?
Nope.. they are talking about both cars in a comparison... maybe it is the language barrier
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Old 01-05-2005, 06:25 PM   #30
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Looks very good, i really like what they did with the back
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