Is TVR coming to the USA?

[mindgam3]

Either way as long as the standard of design, innovation, they keep the numbers down and they remain as british as they are i couldnt really care less

[Daggernite]

I agree with mindgam3. Aslong as the new owner has sence and sticks to TVR's roots there should'nt be a problem. BUT, if he does decide to make changes, I fear they probably will be for the worse

[RC45]

Originally Posted by Daggernite I agree with mindgam3. Aslong as the new owner has sence and sticks to TVR's roots there should'nt be a problem. BUT, if he does decide to make changes, I fear they probably will be for the worse

Think about it... TVR is supposed to "The Best of British"... If so - then why didn't a British businessman buy the company? No one with enough money - or the company not worth anything?

Makes you wonder... hey?

Either TVR had turned to crap.. hehehe or was about to go down the crapper.. --- This would be from a business perspective or car quality perspective..

[mindgam3]

Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by Daggernite I agree with mindgam3. Aslong as the new owner has sence and sticks to TVR's roots there should'nt be a problem. BUT, if he does decide to make changes, I fear they probably will be for the worse Think about it... TVR is supposed to "The Best of British"... If so - then why didn't a British businessman buy the company? No one with enough money - or the company not worth anything? Makes you wonder... hey? Either TVR had turned to crap.. hehehe or was about to go down the crapper.. --- This would be from a business perspective or car quality perspective..

lol, if they're so deep in financial trouble, why are they selling so many cars then? and why are they bringing out new cars all the time? You're hardly going to refuse a big money offer from someone who can put funds into the company to expand and improve it more than you can yourself are you?

[RC45]

Originally Posted by mindgam3 Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by Daggernite I agree with mindgam3. Aslong as the new owner has sence and sticks to TVR's roots there should'nt be a problem. BUT, if he does decide to make changes, I fear they probably will be for the worse Think about it... TVR is supposed to "The Best of British"... If so - then why didn't a British businessman buy the company? No one with enough money - or the company not worth anything? Makes you wonder... hey? Either TVR had turned to crap.. hehehe or was about to go down the crapper.. --- This would be from a business perspective or car quality perspective.. lol, if they're so deep in financial trouble, why are they selling so many cars then? and why are they bringing out new cars all the time? You're hardly going to refuse a big money offer from someone who can put funds into the company to expand and improve it more than you can yourself are you?

Typical answer of the "blind faithful".

If they had that good of a future prospect - than banks would have rolled up to offer the same money and be able to keep the company "British"..

Let's face it... TVR is/was just Leyland with a loud muffler and big horsepower..

[FordGTGuy]

The company even tries to get you not to buy their Speed 12 because the brakes are horrible. I'm glad they have these tests you guys watch those videos of cars getting hit and you say "I hope no one was hurt." But if the damn thing didn't pass the wrecking tests your fucked. Actually If you would do some research America has been making nice vehicles that you won't die in so easily. But If your in a crash with a jap import your dead. BTW why do you guys always talk about the quality of American cars in Matrerials and reliability but never japanese? And how many times do we have to say this:
1. America has the Largest vehicles community in the world by far.
2. Companies like Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge, Mazda, Volvo, Land Rover, GM, GMC, etc. and some imports mostly Mercedes around where I live.

[mindgam3]

Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by mindgam3 Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by Daggernite I agree with mindgam3. Aslong as the new owner has sence and sticks to TVR's roots there should'nt be a problem. BUT, if he does decide to make changes, I fear they probably will be for the worse Think about it... TVR is supposed to "The Best of British"... If so - then why didn't a British businessman buy the company? No one with enough money - or the company not worth anything? Makes you wonder... hey? Either TVR had turned to crap.. hehehe or was about to go down the crapper.. --- This would be from a business perspective or car quality perspective.. lol, if they're so deep in financial trouble, why are they selling so many cars then? and why are they bringing out new cars all the time? You're hardly going to refuse a big money offer from someone who can put funds into the company to expand and improve it more than you can yourself are you? Typical answer of the "blind faithful". If they had that good of a future prospect - than banks would have rolled up to offer the same money and be able to keep the company "British".. Let's face it... TVR is/was just Leyland with a loud muffler and big horsepower..

lol, well how come they showed a profit of about £400,000 for 2002 and are constantly selling 1000 cars a year? This from a company of only 400 people isn't exactly bad....

True, if they want to expand and make larger profits they'd have to sell to the US, but they would in no means be "in the crapper" if the russian hadn't of bought the company and would continue to survive even if they didnt sell to the US.

[RC45]

Originally Posted by mindgam3 Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by mindgam3 Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by Daggernite I agree with mindgam3. Aslong as the new owner has sence and sticks to TVR's roots there should'nt be a problem. BUT, if he does decide to make changes, I fear they probably will be for the worse Think about it... TVR is supposed to "The Best of British"... If so - then why didn't a British businessman buy the company? No one with enough money - or the company not worth anything? Makes you wonder... hey? Either TVR had turned to crap.. hehehe or was about to go down the crapper.. --- This would be from a business perspective or car quality perspective.. lol, if they're so deep in financial trouble, why are they selling so many cars then? and why are they bringing out new cars all the time? You're hardly going to refuse a big money offer from someone who can put funds into the company to expand and improve it more than you can yourself are you? Typical answer of the "blind faithful". If they had that good of a future prospect - than banks would have rolled up to offer the same money and be able to keep the company "British".. Let's face it... TVR is/was just Leyland with a loud muffler and big horsepower.. lol, well how come they showed a profit of about £400,000 for 2002 and are constantly selling 1000 cars a year? This from a company of only 400 people isn't exactly bad.... True, if they want to expand and make larger profits they'd have to sell to the US, but they would in no means be "in the crapper" if the russian hadn't of bought the company and would continue to survive even if they didnt sell to the US.

Evidently you are not aware of how easy it is to "cook your books" in preparation for selling a company..

Let's see how the next 2 years go.. since that profit might not reflect accurately the real cost of fixing all the shit that broke...

I predict the new owners will dump TVR within 24 months to one of the majors as the company is going to be a money-losing expense pit..

Which is exactly why Mr Wheeler should be commended for his business accumen - he sold the company at the time it was worth selling..

[mindgam3]

Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by mindgam3 Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by mindgam3 Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by Daggernite I agree with mindgam3. Aslong as the new owner has sence and sticks to TVR's roots there should'nt be a problem. BUT, if he does decide to make changes, I fear they probably will be for the worse Think about it... TVR is supposed to "The Best of British"... If so - then why didn't a British businessman buy the company? No one with enough money - or the company not worth anything? Makes you wonder... hey? Either TVR had turned to crap.. hehehe or was about to go down the crapper.. --- This would be from a business perspective or car quality perspective.. lol, if they're so deep in financial trouble, why are they selling so many cars then? and why are they bringing out new cars all the time? You're hardly going to refuse a big money offer from someone who can put funds into the company to expand and improve it more than you can yourself are you? Typical answer of the "blind faithful". If they had that good of a future prospect - than banks would have rolled up to offer the same money and be able to keep the company "British".. Let's face it... TVR is/was just Leyland with a loud muffler and big horsepower.. lol, well how come they showed a profit of about £400,000 for 2002 and are constantly selling 1000 cars a year? This from a company of only 400 people isn't exactly bad.... True, if they want to expand and make larger profits they'd have to sell to the US, but they would in no means be "in the crapper" if the russian hadn't of bought the company and would continue to survive even if they didnt sell to the US. Evidently you are not aware of how easy it is to "cook your books" in preparation for selling a company.. Let's see how the next 2 years go.. since that profit might not reflect accurately the real cost of fixing all the shit that broke... I predict the new owners will dump TVR within 24 months to one of the majors as the company is going to be a money-losing expense pit.. Which is exactly why Mr Wheeler should be commended for his business accumen - he sold the company at the time it was worth selling..

lol, whatever, you're beating around the bush and not pointing out anything useful. TVR has been around for over 50 years and has had its ups and downs but they have never been more productive than they are now. They've got their own one make series, they're in national and international endurance racing, they're making profit, they're selling cars, they're producing and desgning new cars nearly every year.... these aren't the signs of a company in trouble....

And as i've said before, theres no point arguing with you as you fail to see all points of view on nearly every topic....

[RC45]

Originally Posted by mindgam3 And as i've said before, theres no point arguing with you as you fail to see all points of view on nearly every topic....

That's what happens when you are always right - and the other person is always wrong..

You better go buy your TVR now - before they get swallowed up by Ford and folded in with Vulva...

[skituner]

that would be so sweet if they came to the us
im tried of all these shit us cars
bring in the euros!!!

[Max Power]

/\/\/\/\......Sort of what happened to Aston Martin, damn ford made it better than ever, those bastards.
Smolenski wanted to buy himself a TVR, instead he bought the car company. I'm pretty sure he didn't blow his account and whatever that was wrong will be fixed with some more money. What I'd be more worried is that TVR is now owned by him......

....watch him take TVR F1 racing, you've all seen Chelsea. Ferrari better be looking over their shoulders

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by FordGTGuy 1. America has the Largest vehicles community in the world by far. 2. Companies like Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge, Mazda, Volvo, Land Rover, GM, GMC, etc. and some imports mostly Mercedes around where I live.

Ford = 33% Mazda, Volvo, Land Rover,
Gm = GMC. chevrolet
Mercedes = Dodge.

and in number of cars sold toyota is the 2nd largest auto maker in the world, (unless you coun't the 33% of mazda then ford inches ahead) and Toyota is worth four times the as much as Ford, so american alot of sales, no money? mmmmm.... shows you how smart they are.

[RC45]

Originally Posted by toronto Toyota is worth four times the as much as Ford, so american alot of sales, no money? mmmmm.... shows you how smart they are.

Care to post the balance sheets supporting these wild claims..??

BEsides - this is such a stupid child-like argument... again.

This whole "America sucks this and sucks that" gets old quickly.

Not because some of us live here - but because it is juvenile - period.

The fact and truth is, that outside of the growing Chinese market place - the USA represents one of, if not THE biggest consumer markets for goods produced all over the planet... and for better or worse, without US sales most every such company (cars/appliances etc etc) would struggle to maintain sales number and costs low enough to even be able to service their home market.

I would point to Ferrari and Porsche and Mercedes as prime examples of companies whose US sales of certain key mass-market product have done a vast amount to improve - if not even possibly save the companies from uncertain futures..

So - how about y'all stick you dicks back in your pants and get back to cars.

oh and a little p.s.

I love the way so many Canadians are so quick to try stuff it to the US - when the only manufacturing and produciton that takes place in Canada is either for or on behalf of US comapnies.

The bottomline - if Canada was cut off from access to the US economy it would be a third world ex-colony - not an actual country..

[Max Power]

GM - 1, Ford - 2, DaimlerChrysler - 3, Toyota - 4
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