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Old 08-09-2004, 07:51 PM   #16
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well take WRC for example, they limit the cars to 300hp. i think the subaru WR1 makes more power, as does the Mitsu MR..........i think. so *technically* those would need WRC restrictor plates, but officially, those cars would still get their asses handed to them
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Old 08-09-2004, 07:53 PM   #17
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What is funny of the Ferrari F50, is that it sports technology that has been banned from F1 some time ago.


Anyone care to guess what? (or knows the answer?)
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Old 08-09-2004, 07:53 PM   #18
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well look at the CTS-V in SCCA they actually restricted the racing engine because it was too powerful for the class when all it was is the standard CTS-V engine and they use 90% the same suspension and the same frame just added a roll cage. then they just gutted the car and put in all the little things to make it a race car.
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Old 08-09-2004, 07:54 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Paco
What is funny of the Ferrari F50, is that it sports technology that has been banned from F1 some time ago.


Anyone care to guess what? (or knows the answer?)

launch control brotha
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Old 08-09-2004, 07:58 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by sameerrao
Originally Posted by mindgam3
hmmm i can't think of a whole production car that started life as a race car
There are not many

Daur 962
Porsche GT1
Ferrari 250 GTO or LM (was first a race car but then was used on the normal roads afterwards)
The GT1 is a 911 first
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:00 PM   #21
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i think he meant the GT series of the 911's
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:43 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by IgotWRXed
Originally Posted by Paco
What is funny of the Ferrari F50, is that it sports technology that has been banned from F1 some time ago.


Anyone care to guess what? (or knows the answer?)

launch control brotha

That's not entirely correct. Launch control made it into F1 and stayed there for quite some time before it was abolished.

No, it's a technology that was only applied once (I think) and then was immediately abolished for being too 'good' (and too dangerous?).
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:51 PM   #23
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nitrous? i have no clue. maybe something to do with aerodynamics?
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Old 08-09-2004, 09:06 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by IgotWRXed
nitrous? i have no clue. maybe something to do with aerodynamics?

Getting closer 8)
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:19 AM   #25
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A system of ducts and fans that provide 'active aerodynamics', that's what the nostrils on the F50 are for .

I can give a more in depth answer also...
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Old 08-10-2004, 01:13 AM   #26
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Well the GT40 was orginally designed for the sole purpose of winning lemans but they had to make a road version of it to be legal. So i guess that's one road car completely based on a race car.

The biggest example of a car having to be detuned for race use I can think of would be the Mclaren F1 GT.
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Old 08-10-2004, 10:07 AM   #27
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could you call the Ford GT a race car that went street. The GT-40 the race car the 2005 Ford GT the street car.
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Old 08-10-2004, 04:52 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by sentra_dude
A system of ducts and fans that provide 'active aerodynamics', that's what the nostrils on the F50 are for .

I can give a more in depth answer also...

Correctomundo!
This was used on the infamous Brabham-Alfa BT46B:
The 1978 Swedish GP will remembered for just one thing. The race itself being rather uneventful, it was the winning car that created its own footnote in history by dominating the meeting, thus to great lengths contributing to its uneventfulness in the first place. Responsible for this overwhelming coup was some clever thinking by Brabham's Gordon Murray, who was trying to eclipse Colin Chapman's ground effect invention on the Lotus 79, the skirted car that had swept the front row since its debut at Zolder. Center of the BT46B concept was a huge fan taking ground effect to a higher level (at least engineering-wise) by pulling a vacuum from under the bottom of the car, thereby creating an enormous amount of downforce. From its skirts up the car stuck on the track like glue, allowing the reigning champion to win conclusively. Immediately after, the fan was deemed illegal, contravening the rules on moving aerodynamical devices, although the Brabham team claimed its use was primarily for cooling - which wasn't far from the truth, actually. In typical FIA style the win was allowed to stand, however, which cost Arrows their chance of victory in its debut season.
Thanks to: http://8w.forix.com/fancar.html


Okay, to go further off-topic: who can name another technology in F1 that was too good and therefore quickly dropped ?
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Old 08-10-2004, 05:11 PM   #29
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1. Active ride height

2. Brake torque transfer - used by Mclaren some years back
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Old 08-10-2004, 06:41 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by sameerrao
1. Active ride height

2. Brake torque transfer - used by Mclaren some years back

3. 4x4

4. CVT transmission (Williams)
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