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View Poll Results: Saleen S7
subzero 27 43.55%
cool 22 35.48%
uncool 8 12.90%
seriously uncool 5 8.06%
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Old 09-05-2006, 04:32 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by bmuller
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few hardcore enthusiasts?

what BS

you know that they built 42 in 2005, and nearly 60 scheduled for this year?
what does Koenigsegg do, what does Zonda do.... barely 1 per month.
What does it matter how many of them are built...? A cars exclusivity may be a deciding factor in whether or not to buy a car in SOME peoples mind, but I would contend that for the true enthusiast it would more likely depend on the driving experience and enjoyment derived from pushing a sports car beyond normal limits. It is merely a sidenote that these cars of interest happen to be very expensive supercars and would naturally be produced in smaller numbers due to the smaller demand for them. Even if sales volume somehow played a role in your opinion of a car, may I once again direct your attention to the F40, over 1000 were produced yet they are still widely regarded as one of the best supercars of all time... What's more, I'm willing to bet that you'd still love to have one given the opportunity in spite of it relative "lack" of exclusivity...
how is it possible people seem to take a point so far beyond my comprehension...

ok; i'll try this more slowly.

first.
400-500 in a production run of 7-8 years is hardly what I call "a lot"
second.
in relation to "few hardcore enthusiasts"
there are far more S7's made then Zondas + Koenigseggs, so its in the hands of more then what is literally just a "few" hardcore enthusiasts.
third.
where on earth did i mention anything about the S7's exclusivity? Its a $500k + car... that automatically limits who can and cannot buy it.
fourth.
I will defend what I like about this car, but; considering its abilities, and goals, it doesn't have the fit and finish of its real competitors. And trust me, there is in fact a LOT that i like about this car. You will be hard pressed to find a more hardcore performance enthusiast.

Give me a message once you start driving cars that cost more then $100,000... perhaps then you will begin to understand that performance isn't everything, exclusivity isn't everything, pricetag isn't everything, and looks arent everything.

lastly.
The F40 is aimed strictly at being the most hardcore of road car experiences of its day. The S7 is somewhat, then aims at some sort of luxury; which it fails at... and considering its production numbers the car should be more finished.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:54 PM   #17
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its cooler than cool, but not quite subzero cool due to the fact that 2 of their 3 models (the 750hp and 1000hp models) are turboed. Nothing is more exotic, sexy and hardcore racer then a naturally aspirated engine. (The only reason why the F40 had them was because at the time they were legal in F1, the worlds highest form of motorsports).
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Old 11-28-2006, 09:15 AM   #18
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S7 is a cool car. Looks really good.
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:05 AM   #19
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interesting comments in that topic

cool and rare
send one over to TG to test it !
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Old 02-08-2007, 02:29 PM   #20
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just cool, I don't like very much because it's a bad copy of the McLaren F-1
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:16 PM   #21
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Seriously uncool! The design is horrific! Specially form the middle to the back.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:33 PM   #22
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Cool car!

Especially in Europe, never seen one ever over here!
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:31 AM   #23
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PpppLease!!!!!!!

ugley!!! (with the E!)

50 Cent's got one!!

enough is enough!!

UN-COOL!!!!
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:51 AM   #24
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A very close uncool, but still...cool. I just can't get F1 out of my mind. It would be sub if F1 didn't exist...
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:28 AM   #25
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subzero in my book, as long as you keep the chrome away.. :roll:
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:22 AM   #26
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PpppLease!!!!!!!

ugley!!! (with the E!)

50 Cent's got one!!

enough is enough!!

UN-COOL!!!!
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:52 PM   #27
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it's very cool, but not SZ. since this section is solely about the looks this car doesn't cut to the SZ category for me
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:41 AM   #28
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You see.. the thing is for me that as long as US cars manufacturers are going to try to copy european cars they are incapable of being cool. No soul. Saleen is a horrific design sth between xj220 and McLaren F1. Now look at original (and new) US designs. Mustang, Challenger, Camaro.. etc Maybe not that technicly advanced but what a soul, what joy for what money
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:54 AM   #29
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Zubzero,the car is awesome I love it.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:56 AM   #30
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Maybe they were just going for high downforce and low drag . . . there's only so much you can do with the shape then. Anything that weighs less than 2400 pounds and has anywhere from 550 to 1000 bhp without looking hideous is cool in my book.
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