10-04-2005, 12:50 AM
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The middle section in the grill is just stupid it ruins the whole look of the car every thing else is preety decent on it though
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10-04-2005, 06:22 AM
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I might buy one
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10-04-2005, 08:20 AM
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It looks hideous. Not even remotely aggressive either, with those gay headlights...
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10-04-2005, 08:31 AM
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i think it looks ok,i also do prefer the 03-05 shape impreza but this one isnt bad,im sure i read somewere that this model is actually quite fast.bit more power than the previous STI isnt it?
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10-04-2005, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gis
i think it looks ok,i also do prefer the 03-05 shape impreza but this one isnt bad,im sure i read somewere that this model is actually quite fast.bit more power than the previous STI isnt it?
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yep, its now a 2.5L instead of 2.0L and makes 206kW and 392Nm (14% more than previous model).
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10-04-2005, 09:19 AM
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^In addition, the WRX model (in NA market at least) has switch from 2.0 to 2.5. I will assume there will be more low end grunt for around town driving.
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10-04-2005, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
^In addition, the WRX model (in NA market at least) has switch from 2.0 to 2.5. I will assume there will be more low end grunt for around town driving.
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yes, that is the case here too....the base model WRX now has 169kW.
Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
And what about the WRC then? I mean... they have been using the 2.0 litre engine because they had to homologate a road car to enter the WRC.
With the 2.5 litre turbo... will it be a limited run with 2.0 litre engines? or am I wrong from the beggining and from 2007, the WRC will switch to S2000?
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Bloody good question.....
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10-04-2005, 09:39 AM
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^Yeah, I thought you have to produce certain amount of engines and chassis before you can use it for WRC.
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10-04-2005, 11:34 AM
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here in the US, the STi since initial release has been 2.5 liters, and running 'low' boost levels of 14psi, compared with the overseas versions running 17-19psi.
our power outputs have been @300 hp/300 lb.-ft. since 2004.
also, i dont remember when Subaru has had 2.0 liter engines in the N/A lineup... i've only seen them in 2.5 format here... but probobly because US markets demand more low end drivability, particularly for a car pushing all four wheels
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10-04-2005, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
And what about the WRC then? I mean... they have been using the 2.0 litre engine because they had to homologate a road car to enter the WRC.
With the 2.5 litre turbo... will it be a limited run with 2.0 litre engines? or am I wrong from the beggining and from 2007, the WRC will switch to S2000?
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well, considering there was no 2000cc turbo Peugeot 206, or Xsara, or Peugeot 307... I guess there's no need to have a 2.0 turbo engine in the road car line up ops: I just though it was the same as the FIA GT
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The rules are quite complicated, but as I remember it, you have too keep some specs of the production engine, but you can imporve some others. The Xsara and 307 engine are both based on a 1.8l non-turbo engine: so you have the right to increase the size of the engine and add a turbo. You then have a restriction on the size of the air intake on the turbo (32mm if I am right).
You can change many things on the engine, but I doubt you can reduse the size from 2.5 to 2.0, so we might still have the 2.0l turbo engine in Europe
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10-04-2005, 03:20 PM
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I have found this about the regulation to homologate a WRC car:
http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/Cars_Background4.html
It looks quite up-to-date apart from Ford allowed to run the Escort
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10-06-2005, 10:09 PM
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heres what it should've been ...
courtsey of me
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10-06-2005, 11:11 PM
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Saddie, if u do it this way, maybe try another version with the entire front closed off. I have a feeling it will make it look like a 350z front end
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10-07-2005, 04:04 AM
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Has the Impreza ever looked good? I don't think so. It started ok, got a lot worse, but that last model was a good step in the right direction. Apart from the grill I think this is nice for an Impreza.
That grill isn't an instant stunner, but I think it has some historic meaning to Subaru. The retro trend has been like that for some time now. A lot of cars have design details from old models. I must admit that I like that thougt. If a manufacturer sticks to this you can recognize their cars from any era. Maybe I'm biased. I'm a Saab guy, and they've always done this. The T-bird looks like the one from the 50's, and Chevy has that pickup that I never remeber the name of. Some time ago BMW Z8 and MB SL got side vents from their relatives from the 60's, Audi has reintroduced the grill from the 30's race cars, and here comes Subaru.
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10-07-2005, 05:43 AM
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it looks strange.. it seems that someone has stolen the extra lights on the front bumper...
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