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Old 10-28-2003, 05:00 PM   #211
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- latest infos on 987 and 997 -

nothing really special but just to keep the "Porsche news" running...
the upcomming 987 Coupe, internal termed "C7", won`t appear till end of 2005. the standard Boxter´ll have its premiere in Jan.`05 at the Detroit Auto show, this is very likely because the US market is the biggest market for Porsche. there are still some minor problems with the lead-away of the heat which produces the engine, that sits right behind the seats. on the other hand the boot of the 987C´ll have 300ltr, which is a lot for a car like this, it`s compareable with the loading space of the 350Z and Audi TT.
the seats´ll be bigger, better cushioned and outlined, Porsche´ll also stay with the intergated headrests. the instruments´ll look like the ones in the 955, and the quality´ll significantly increase. that`s why the estimated price of 40k € won`t be possible for the 2.7ltr base modell, this one´ll be ~ 43,500€, the “S” version 51,500€, so again on SLK, TT, Z4 level.
power output´ll be +15hp in the “S” version, because the displacement´ll increase from 3.2 to 3.4 ltrs. the base modell´ll stay with its 2.7ltr, but´ll also have more hp. sadly (?) the DSG won`t be available with the Boxter ( maybe in one of the 997 modells later... ), there`ll be 6speed manu or 5speed tiptronic, from 2006 on a 6speed tiptronic´ll be available as an option.
also as options, PCCB, adaptive headlights and even 19” wheels are possible.
sadly ther won`t be a 300hp Clubsport version, and also no “Boxter Cup”...

the 997 is now estimated to appear in july 2004, starting with the C2 and a interesting new modell, the C2S. it`s like the C4S now, which has the 996TT optics, so the 997C2S ´ll have wider fenders, sport suspension, 19” wheels and 10 to 20mm less ground clearance.
2005, the C2/S convertible as well as the C4/S will follow.
2006 will be a good year to buy a car, the new ~400hp GT3 and the ~ 460hp TT will be launched, one year later the Targa and the GT2.

as i mentioned before the 997 won`t be a new developement, “just” an improvement of the 996, a completely new 911 modell range is likely for 2008, the 998 series...

what a nice picture a colleague sent me today:

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Old 10-28-2003, 05:08 PM   #212
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Indeed that's a nice pic.

St-anger, so the next one is the 997 and by 2008 there will be a 998 but then, after the 999??? What are they going to call it

What I'm also interested about is the new engines. For the 997 will they stick with the traditional boxer6 3.6? no V8 like the Cayenne perhaps... You didn't tell us about that Sorry for my curiosity, I'm kinda catching up tonight on things going on at JW...
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:34 PM   #213
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Originally Posted by 1zippo1
Indeed that's a nice pic.

St-anger, so the next one is the 997 and by 2008 there will be a 998 but then, after the 999??? What are they going to call it

What I'm also interested about is the new engines. For the 997 will they stick with the traditional boxer6 3.6? no V8 like the Cayenne perhaps... You didn't tell us about that Sorry for my curiosity, I'm kinda catching up tonight on things going on at JW...
haven`t i posted something about the "E2 A&B" sedan projects...???
if not, tell my and i´ll do it tomorrow, because now i´ve to leave...
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Old 10-29-2003, 03:39 PM   #214
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Originally Posted by 1zippo1
Indeed that's a nice pic.

St-anger, so the next one is the 997 and by 2008 there will be a 998 but then, after the 999??? What are they going to call it

What I'm also interested about is the new engines. For the 997 will they stick with the traditional boxer6 3.6? no V8 like the Cayenne perhaps... You didn't tell us about that Sorry for my curiosity, I'm kinda catching up tonight on things going on at JW...
after 999....i don`t care that much about such things, it`s marketing stuff...

on the other hand the engine topic is an interesting one
the are so many rumours about that, but it seems likely that they´ll stick with the flat-six engines possibly pushing them to 3.8 ltrs and ~350hp with the std. version. it`s really hard to guess what they are going to do, because they need an engine for the E2 modells too, so it`s very likely that these modells´ll use the modificated 955 engine, but rumours suggest that Porsche is working on a 5ltr flat-eight, which produces 450 hp even in normally-aspirated form. this engine may be used in the 997, because it`s not likely to install a V-engine into a 911...
i ´ll do some investigations on that issue, but IMO it`s more interesting how thing`s gonna work out with the "fourth Porsche :shock: " as Mr.Wiedeking called it...
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Old 10-29-2003, 09:51 PM   #215
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Check out this Ebay auction for the Porsche Carerra GT: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=2438757187#lg
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Old 10-30-2003, 05:28 PM   #216
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fantastic photo of that fender ST! The detail of the wheels and the yello caliper through the vent are amazing! thanks for sharing
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Old 11-02-2003, 10:28 AM   #217
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- Carrera GT "Sport Auto" video -

http://194.221.99.230/elise/carrera_gt.mpg

it´s from the „Sport Auto“ Supertest.
i already know the lap times ( nordschleife, hockenheim ) and nearly all the other test figures, but i´m not allowed to post ´em here because the “Supertest” will be featured in the december issue of “Sport Auto”
maybe i´ll post some infos in the "secure" thread of my CGT report...
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Old 11-02-2003, 10:43 AM   #218
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Thanks for another CGT vid! Downloading now
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Old 11-02-2003, 12:31 PM   #219
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aha, that's one review that we've been waiting for. Thx st-anger
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Old 11-02-2003, 12:51 PM   #220
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dl now.. thanks st.. please let us know the times.. the elite 30 or so wanna know..
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Old 11-03-2003, 01:47 PM   #221
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OH BOY!!!
i just had a VERY VERY VERY interesting conversation with my contact from Porsche Leipzig, unfortunately i don`t have the time to tell you all the stuff, and tonight at 11pm i´m leaving to Leipzig again by plane, i don`t know if i´ll have the chance to inform you, because i don`t know the hotel where i´ll stay and if they provide an internet access on the rooms, but as soon as i´ll be back i ´ll write a full review for you guys...
i can´t believe all this, things are going quite well these times....

...as always, i can´t promise anything, but maybe we`ll have to re-activate the CGT-report again, to add another experience

we´ll keep in touch guys
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Old 11-03-2003, 01:58 PM   #222
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Damn!! Are you going to drive it AGAIN?! When does it end????

Sweet Jesus, the man's off to Leipzig again. That can only mean one thing, if you add his clue to the CGT report. Lucky, lucky guy...

Have fun, st-anger!
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Old 11-03-2003, 04:45 PM   #223
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DAMMMMN St... U are on a lucky streak man (or as a wise man once told me u make ur own luck - I am pretty sure ur hardwork, blood, sweat and tears has got u into a pretty well connected, highly respected position )
... and I thought I was on a roll in the last few days
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Old 11-03-2003, 04:52 PM   #224
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I think the two of you used up the entire 'world luck reserve' for the next month, LOL!
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Old 11-03-2003, 05:05 PM   #225
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I hope not coz I am call on friday.. dont wanna see too many sick babies "in the middle of the night"...
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