10-13-2009, 04:24 AM
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GT-R Transmission Failure Suit
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/20/r...sion-failures/
It was nearly a year ago when we reported on a NAGTROC forum user getting hit with a $20,000 bill to replace his toasted transmission after using Launch Control (LC1) on his GT-R. In time for the second model year of the car, Nissan first dropped Launch Control, then they decided to include it, but with safeguards (LC2). In the meantime, a growing number of owners of the initial batch got together and filed a class action suit against Nissan in the hopes of receiving some compensation for their transmissions.
That suit was settled last weekend in California. The verdict: any owners with LC1 will have their warranties reset for 5 years/60,000 miles once they upgrade to LC2, and the LC2 transmission and internals -- including VDC -- will be fully covered by Nissan. If you use the LC2 with VDC on and something breaks, everything's covered. If you turn the VDC off and use LC2 and something breaks, you're in the poo.
However, if you turn the VDC off and use LC2, then turn VDC back on and everything is fine, then you drive for a while and then a few weeks later something breaks, Nissan will have to prove that turning the VDC off weeks earlier is what caused the breakage. Previously the burden of proof was on the owner; now it's on Nissan. Owners of 2009 cars will also get a $75 coupon for service at a GT-R-approved dealership. Owners will receive notices in the mail with the details. Whew. Glad that's over. Now can we get back to enjoying one of the finest cars on the roads today? Hat tip to Matt
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10-13-2009, 05:16 PM
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await for RC45's battering
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10-13-2009, 05:22 PM
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Not surprised. I wonder if future GTR's will be worth more with the ability to fully turn off VDC (aka 2008 models w/out the upgrade to 2009 spec).
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10-13-2009, 05:26 PM
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I think what Nissan is offering is quite fair. Plus I really don't see alot of users turning off VDC anyways. What's the point of having a GT-R when you are turning off it's brains.
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10-13-2009, 07:18 PM
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maybe the driver might want to explore their capabilities (track days) without running into mechanical failure in the warranty
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10-13-2009, 08:29 PM
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^I think owners should try to break their tranny ASAP with VDC on before the warranty expires.
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10-13-2009, 09:43 PM
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It's positive that Nissan recognized the flaw and somewhat "solved" it.
But a $75 service bonus on a 80.000 car looks like a joke!
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10-13-2009, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by marcefer
It's positive that Nissan recognized the flaw and somewhat "solved" it.
But a $75 service bonus on a 80.000 car looks like a joke!
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20+ k transmission repair vs. a totaled car?
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10-13-2009, 11:02 PM
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I keep reading the word "suit" as "slut". What does it tell about me?
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10-14-2009, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pitfield
await for RC45's battering
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What's to batter?
The car is over weight, under-powered and barely able to get out of its own way without electronic assistance.
This law suit just underscores this.
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10-14-2009, 01:35 AM
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This law suit was just a way for desk lawyers to get rich.
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10-23-2009, 03:37 PM
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10-23-2009, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattk
This law suit was just a way for desk lawyers to get rich.
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Very wise comment. Really. I must have twenty class action settlements mailed to me a year. The latest is from Expedia.com, I think I get a twenty dollar certificate.
Meanwhile the attorney that I didn't hire got 10 million.
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10-23-2009, 07:51 PM
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^That's just crazy. America needs to do away with contingency fee schemes like the rest of the modern world. And I must say that Lambofighter's video post came into my mind when I first read this!
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