03-06-2008, 04:55 PM
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Nice video Pagani
This is a car that has grown on me in the past few months... Just as S7 production ends, the SSC fills in that gap
Originally Posted by leblanc2.0
Sorry but this car is a piece off trash,ugly,bad engineered,etc.
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What makes you think that it's poorly engineered piece of trash? What do you know that we don't ???
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03-06-2008, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 79TA
The drag coefficient is 0.357??? That seems really high when compared to many less sleek looking cars. Then again, I think many manufacturers nowadays aren't particularily honest about the CD as it's not something that is easily tested like 0-60 times.
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The Veyron is .36 in "top speed mode" and .37 in normal configuration, and a mid .37 for High d/f mode.... just as a comparison...
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03-06-2008, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
Nice video Pagani
This is a car that has grown on me in the past few months... Just as S7 production ends, the SSC fills in that gap
What makes you think that it's poorly engineered piece of trash? What do you know that we don't ???
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It's the new american supercar king
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03-06-2008, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
The veryron is just a computer on wheels.
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But its a computer that works...
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03-06-2008, 05:31 PM
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It should be apparent that the SSC doesn't deserve the kitcar moniker. Save that sort of insult for the Factory Five GTM cars. I assume by bends you mean that it handles well. It weighs about 33% more than the SSC and I can assure you the SSC would run circles around a Veyron at any given track.
The Veyron does have more complex design as it was designed with a luxury aspect in mind. This is what sets the Veyron apart from other cars in my mind. You can go to 253 comfortably. That same speed can be neared or eclipsed by other cars but it's much more exciting (uncomfortable.) Being enthusiastic about the SSC does not mean disrespecting the Veyron. I see no problem in comparing the two cars. I still love the Veyron. I don't know why can't atleast respect the SSC for what it is.
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03-06-2008, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Veedub
You probably know that the Koenigsegg's engine is made by Ford US, don't you ?
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Yes like Ford GT.
Now Koenigsegg's engine is made by themselfs.Its a racing engine.And you have nascar and other races.
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03-06-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by leblanc2.0
Yes like Ford GT.
Now Koenigsegg's engine is made by themselfs.Its a racing engine.And you have nascar and other races.
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While it is now made by the Koenigsegg, the CCX engine is wholly of a design from Lansing, Michigan
Again, are you going to back from your statement, or are you going to defend it with substance?
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03-06-2008, 05:37 PM
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^I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the koenigsegg engine is nothing more than something slightly custom out of the Dart engine block catalogue.
Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to explain and support your comments about the SSC.
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03-06-2008, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 79TA
^I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the koenigsegg engine is nothing more than something slightly custom out of the Dart engine block catalogue.
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Oh, the engine is exotic componentry, all right.
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03-06-2008, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by leblanc2.0
Our cars are in other level,that US cars cant reach.Your cars only need to last 4 years.
But dont think that i hate all US cars.I like the Mustang Rouch,Ford GTX1,old GT40 and the beautiful Shelby GT500.
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I totaly second that.
It's [aero] not even close to style, usfulness and complexity of design and engeneering of its biggest competitor Veyron.
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03-06-2008, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 79TA
Engines with double overhead cams are hardly engineering marvels as they, like the pushrod V8's, have been around since the 1930's. Also, variable valve timing has yet to do anything outstanding for the performance of normal production cars. I'm still not seeing any specific points. But of course, being an American enthusiastic about the SSC must mean I'm single-minded and short-sited right?
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Man its you that say that not me.
Its a question of tastes.I like red cars and you blue perhaps.Its a diferent point of view.
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03-06-2008, 05:58 PM
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Yes, one point of view, mine, has been backed up by some actual points. Another, that where the SSC is arbitrarily disprespected, is nothing more than an unbacked claim. Take your pick I guess.
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03-06-2008, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by leblanc2.0
Man its you that say that not me.
Its a question of tastes.I like red cars and you blue perhaps.Its a diferent point of view.
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What does "different point of view" have to do with how well a car is engineered?
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03-06-2008, 05:59 PM
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nthfinity sorry and no offence but if u think that all that u have mentioned amaricans did first for ex with mid engine car read more about history of motor (and european) engeneering
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03-06-2008, 07:08 PM
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I know the Veyron's tires wouldn't last too long at 250 mph but is that really the reason they'd limit the speed? People at Bonneville can seem to find suitable tires. Then again, those are usually strictly for top speed runs.
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