12-10-2007, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
The main thing is turbo lag on a road course. Race cars have anti lag systems, but a street car doesn't. even on low boost with awesome heat dispersion.
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Not all turbo engines have lag you need spec a engine properly and stroke the engine and keep it in the rev band
Just look at the new nissan gtr it has zero lag.
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12-10-2007, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
Not all turbo engines have lag you need spec a engine properly and stroke the engine and keep it in the rev band
Just look at the new nissan gtr it has zero lag.
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I don't believe that one ounce.
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12-10-2007, 05:22 PM
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I kown lots of streetcars whit antilag.
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12-10-2007, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
I kown lots of streetcars whit antilag.
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Define "street car"?
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12-10-2007, 06:52 PM
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Pagani, you should learn how to retreat at certain point.
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12-11-2007, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Define "street car"?
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This is to me a street car.
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12-11-2007, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
Pagani, you should learn how to retreat at certain point.
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No i by my points.
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12-11-2007, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
The main thing is turbo lag on a road course. Race cars have anti lag systems, but a street car doesn't. even on low boost with awesome heat dispersion.
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I think heat and lack of progressive powerband are bigger issues than turbo lag. It's to do with how you set up the turbos - do you go for max power (i.e. makes the power at top end - like the F40) or max flexibility (like my S4 and the RT12). The latter hardly have much lag to talk about.
In my car, the power comes on at 1950 rpm so there isn't that much a lag so to speak. Yes, you can be caught flatfooted when you are in low rpms and high gear but you will have the same issue in a NA car which is out of its powerband.
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12-11-2007, 01:05 PM
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^^^^^
This is true, sameer.
Originally Posted by pagani
This is to me a street car.
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Well, with all that understeer, the front tires wont last the same 5 laps the engine will w/out pulling timing.
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12-11-2007, 02:09 PM
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I dont think there is any production car that doesnt have turbo lag....if it did have an anti-lag system, the gas milage and life of the engine/turbo's would probably be next to nothing. Keeping turbo's spooled probably takes a good bit of energy.
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12-11-2007, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sameerrao
I think heat and lack of progressive powerband are bigger issues than turbo lag. It's to do with how you set up the turbos - do you go for max power (i.e. makes the power at top end - like the F40) or max flexibility (like my S4 and the RT12). The latter hardly have much lag to talk about.
In my car, the power comes on at 1950 rpm so there isn't that much a lag so to speak. Yes, you can be caught flatfooted when you are in low rpms and high gear but you will have the same issue in a NA car which is out of its powerband.
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You are spot on.
It also helps on turbo engine to stroke it to bigger displacement.
A well setup/build turbo engine can just be as good as any na engine.
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12-11-2007, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
^^^^^
This is true, sameer.
Well, with all that understeer, the front tires wont last the same 5 laps the engine will w/out pulling timing.
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Yes the mines gtr will last 5 laps.
I has no understeer proper setup suspension.
Last edited by pagani; 12-11-2007 at 02:24 PM.
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12-11-2007, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
Yes the mines gtr will last 5 laps.
I has no understeer.
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Is that the video you linked?
That GTR has tonnnnns of understeer.
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12-11-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
Is that the video you linked?
That GTR has tonnnnns of understeer.
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Yes it has belance not understeer.
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