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TopGearNL · 07-06-2006, 06:32 PM

Does anyone on this forum use the D50, or has experience with it?

MartijnGizmo · 07-06-2006, 06:43 PM

Don't get an insurance at a electronics store, they are way overpriced. I pay €7 a month for a €5000 coverage in a "valuable goods outdoors insurance" (crappy translation) from Centraal Beheer.

TopGearNL · 07-06-2006, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by MartijnGizmo

Don't get an insurance at a electronics store, they are way overpriced. I pay €7 a month for a €5000 coverage in a "valuable goods outdoors insurance" (crappy translation) from Centraal Beheer.

Ok I see, thanks MartijnGizmo!! That Nikon really is cheaper :shock:

What are the main differences between 350D and D50 other then 8.0 and 6.0 Megapixels, I mean could you spot a real difference?

RC45 · 07-06-2006, 07:36 PM

Sameerrao has a D50

TopGearNL · 07-07-2006, 03:37 AM

/\/\ thanks RC!

MartijnGizmo · 07-07-2006, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by TopGearNL

Ok I see, thanks MartijnGizmo!! That Nikon really is cheaper :shock:

What are the main differences between 350D and D50 other then 8.0 and 6.0 Megapixels, I mean could you spot a real difference?

On DPreview.com you can put them side-by-side.

Don't get too much into the 6MP vs 8MP, it's just 3456 x 2304 vs 3008 x 2000 pixels. Also the D50 uses SD-cards. Advantages of the D50 are: larger size, larger screen, less noise. If you get a body-only and buy a used 18-70 (D70-kitlens) you've got a great starterset.

RC45 · 07-07-2006, 09:47 AM

So the concensus is that a D50 with a choice lense is worth the savings over a D70 with a so-so lense for the asmae price?

Or is the step fom the D50 to the D70 very much worth the extra money spent in the long term?

ae86_16v · 07-07-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by RC45

So the concensus is that a D50 with a choice lense is worth the savings over a D70 with a so-so lense for the asmae price?

Or is the step fom the D50 to the D70 very much worth the extra money spent in the long term?

For me it was, picked up a D50 w/ an used 18-70mm for just a shade over $600 US. Also keep in mind that Photokina will be coming in about 2 months. So if you could wait, wait it out. The D70s will definitely get replaced and probably will see an updated D50.

The 18-70mm kit lens from the D70s/D200 is an awesome lense. The 18-55 on the D50 is also very good by most accounts.

Although the D50 is targeted at a beginner segment verse the D70/D70s targeted at the amateur segment. You will see more "pro" features on the D70s. Also keep in mind that as far as direct competitors, I see the D70s more inline with the 350D than the D50. The D50 was slotted in as an entry level segment right below.

There are numerous sites that listed the features missing.

Here's one w/ side by side comparison w/ the Rebel XT 350D.

http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/Nik...T_images.shtml

sameerrao · 07-07-2006, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by RC45

So the concensus is that a D50 with a choice lense is worth the savings over a D70 with a so-so lense for the asmae price?

Or is the step fom the D50 to the D70 very much worth the extra money spent in the long term?

The two main advantages I see in getting a D70S over a D50 are:
a) Slightly faster burst rates (The D50 has a 2.5 frame per sec continuous shooting rate while the D70 has a 3 fps shooting rate). This would really make itself useful if you are at a race track and shooting the carnage into the first corner as in the US GP. But really this difference is minor for 99% of us
b) Slightly bigger body - The D70 is more comfortable to hold as it is a bit larger. To me the Rebel XT was too small to hold comfortably. This makes a huge difference when you have a high end lens (read heavy - 3 lb+) attached. The bigger the lens the bigger the body. The D200 or EOS 20D are perhaps the right size for the F2.8 lenses.

Ideally if you can buy a used D70S at close to a new D50 price then this is the best bet. Alternatively buy a new D50. You will be happy for sure.

Net net, I think the decision is more in line with the lenses that you buy - if you are getting into professional grade lenses then a D70 is better. Else the D50 will be more than sufficient.

Spend your money on lenses. The body is less important.

RC45 · 07-07-2006, 02:04 PM

Yep - pretty much what I was thinking.

I like reading this guys honest answers http://www.kenrockwell.com/ makes a lot of sense, and even has some counterpoints that may help quash heresay and rumour..

MartijnGizmo · 07-07-2006, 03:59 PM

The only real advantage that the D70(s) has over the D50 is the second wheel to adjust aperture/shutterspeed. But money spend on lenses is always better!

I'd get a D50 with good lenses, or save up for a D200. No need to get the D70s.

Originally Posted by RC45

Yep - pretty much what I was thinking.

I like reading this guys honest answers http://www.kenrockwell.com/ makes a lot of sense, and even has some counterpoints that may help quash heresay and rumour..

Lesson #1: never believe Ken Rockwell, he's totally biased and considered a clown by a lot of people.

RC45 · 07-07-2006, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by MartijnGizmo

Originally Posted by RC45

Yep - pretty much what I was thinking.

I like reading this guys honest answers http://www.kenrockwell.com/ makes a lot of sense, and even has some counterpoints that may help quash heresay and rumour..

Lesson #1: never believe Ken Rockwell, he's totally biased and considered a clown by a lot of people.

Lesson #2: The fact that he pisses off so many wannabes and poseurs is why what he has to say is so great

The fact that an open view such as Ken's makes people think he is a clown, is hwy he is so great.

Far from being biased - he is stating folks should not be biased.

BUt then again if you are a Measurbator of course you need to join the ranks of the Ken Haters

TopGearNL · 07-07-2006, 05:34 PM

LOL ok, reading all the comments now and thanks for that guys, really appreciate it. But here is the one question, I want to shoot nice pics (obvious) and panning shots! Is it the camera that makes the difference or the lense, because if its the lense Im better off buying the cheaper Nikon.

Second question: what would put me off to buy the Canon 350D (Nikon) or yet stimulate me to get that Canon

TopGearNL · 07-07-2006, 05:52 PM

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/comp...n_d50&show=all

sameerrao · 07-07-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by TopGearNL

LOL ok, reading all the comments now and thanks for that guys, really appreciate it. But here is the one question, I want to shoot nice pics (obvious) and panning shots! Is it the camera that makes the difference or the lense, because if its the lense Im better off buying the cheaper Nikon.

Second question: what would put me off to buy the Canon 350D (Nikon) or yet stimulate me to get that Canon

Great lenses will certainly help you take better pictures but technique matters a heck of lot more.

I have the D50 with great lenses Nikon 70-200 VR and 18-70DX. Now it is up to me to make sure I take good pictures. I can't make excuses about my equipment any more