Originally Posted by tekwar
Theres a difference between what ferrari did and what mclaren did. McLaren did it because they didnt want to batlle each other out of that race. They didnt want to crash into each other aka gentlemans agreement. It was the first race of the season and mclaren never just fully supports one driver unlike ferrari.
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What?
Jesus man, wake up to what you are saying!
The end result was the same. The previous 58laps were made completely irrelevant and the sport was brought into disrepute. I'll get to the "gentlemans agreement" soon.
Originally Posted by tekwar
Ferrari on the other hand wanted to give schumy the most points when he already had a huge lead going into the middle of the season. Before this schumy has won already almost every race, he didnt need that win. And the McLaren incident didnt cause such a big stur for a reason, and thats because it wasnt as damaging as what ferrari did.
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Its no secret. Ferrari want the best for Schumacher which ultimately means the best for Ferrari. Ferraris argument although fickle was that, you never know what is going to happen. 1999 was a perfect example. What Ferrari did was wrong but i honestly think DC/Mikas swap was
far more damaging for the sport.
In 2002 before the Austria race, it was obvious Schumacher was going to win the WDC aslong as his car stayed reliable and he avoided injury. Austria 2002 was just alot of salt in the wounds of the other teams but it made very little difference to the outcome of the season. I did boo the shit out of Ferrari but what happened latter in America was far more damaging to the sport.
Schumacher went for a dead heat with Rubens(yeah right) but anyways he accidently handed the victory to Rubens and they laughed about it. Victory had become a joke to Schumacher.
In 1998 before the season had taken any shape or form, DC/Mika had some off the track agreement dictate what happened in a race. Again this proved that victory for DC/Mika was not important but an agreement was far more important.
Originally Posted by tekwar
And you can see that it was a bigger case just by looking at how the FIA reacted to that incident by banning team ruling immediately.
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The FIA had
TWICE banned team order after Mclaren actions.
1. In 1997 during the GP of Jerez when Mika blocked and slowed and months later it was revealed in radio conversations that JV was told "let mika pass, remember he helped us earlier"[not an exact quote]
2.The rule was refined after the 1998 Australian GP.
..and then in 2002, the FIA set out a very definite ruling on team orders.
You must remember that the FIA did not reprimand Ferrari for their actions of the track, the $1m fine was purely for the podium fiasco.
Originally Posted by tekwar
Was there proof of this? Was the on board radio recorded like that of rubens?
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I have none.
DC/Mika are supposed to be racing drivers who go to any length to achieve the WDC. It just doesnt make sense to me. DC races are very hard race and metres before the end says to himself..."ooh that agreement i have with Mika....blah blah blah"...it just sounds stoopid to me.
Originally Posted by tekwar
I know a lot of schumacher fans who hate him just because he gives him a real hard time.
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I certainly dont and i thought it was a load of bollox that he got a penalty for running into Schumi in Malaysia.
FIA = idiots.