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Originally Posted by Just_me
Who is the fastest depends on the driver but I think we all can agree that M-cars got more potential than S-cars being a good trackcar, also more involving to drive (yes , I talk about stock streetcarscars not modified or racing cars).
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Yes, this is true.
BUT,
1) Turbo cars are easy and cheaper to mod, and with huge upgrades. So is very difficult to find a Audi without 40-50hp more than stock.
2) BMW are tricky to be driven in real world enviroment and in tracks, only very good drivers can explore the full potential.
3) In track days here, only the professionals run faster times than amateur drivers in ("equivalet") Audis.
I think that the porpouse is different. Audi S/RS have 98% of the performance (on tracks compared to M) but you could use it for 100% of the time (plaging Mr Clarckson).
On the streets, they (Ms) don't have chance.
BAck to the topic, I think that less weight is always better, but more power on a car with less weight is even better