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Old 01-22-2004, 09:02 PM   #46
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The McLaren definately was a first with is unique layout design and that M Power V12 is simply amazing.

It has the finesse of German Engineering
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Old 01-23-2004, 09:32 PM   #47
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I hate it when ppl say "if the F1 was built today it would be a lot faster" or "if they would put turbo's in or a bigger engine" stop all of this crap. The car was built in the early 90s to the standards of Gordon Murray. If he wanted he could put turbos in the car, he could get a more powerful engine but he didn't. The ppl at Koenigsegg did put a supercharger because they wanted it to have one or it needed one, it is as simple as that. Gordon Murray decided to build his car this way and Christian Koenigsegg decided to build his car that way. They are a lot of hypocrites here, the F1 is still a great car even if the Koenigsegg will be faster. Some of you don't want to give credit to others car companies. Though i would like to see if the Koeniggegg is really better then the F1, I would like to see a match between the two of them.

It is up to Gordon Murray if he wants to build another car that is better then the rest.
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Old 01-23-2004, 11:14 PM   #48
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Here is how I see it. The McLaren comes from a Formula One team of incredible stature and success. Gordan Murray was an ungodly designer, he picked an awesome team of people to build the car he was assigned to produce. The McLaren is an engineering masterpiece, no car can be compared to it overall. Exclusivity is what you get with this car. The Koenigsegg is incredible, built by a man who is just starting out in the business, an entreprenuer. He had alot of help frmo others, and what hes built is a profound car, one of the most insane, but it still doesnt have the prestige of the McLaren. I doubt any car will ever achieve the status of the Mclaren...ever.
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Old 01-23-2004, 11:23 PM   #49
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what is your favorite car, XTwinTurboVR4X?
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Old 01-24-2004, 05:39 AM   #50
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hi i would to say that veilsidebr is wrong the mc laren does the km in
19.6 sec and not 18 sec
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Old 01-24-2004, 06:20 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by Leo_M3
Even if the CC is faster and has a higher cornering speed, I will still take the Mclaren, its simply better. I mean you could use that car every day, the steering is light and you have luggage space!!!
And that BMW V12....

I think the CC would corner better, the F1 rolls a fair bit for a car of its class
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Old 01-26-2004, 07:16 AM   #52
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no that car is in US, i believe the car on my pic used to be owned by a guy in switzerland, dont know who owns it now. as u can c, the SUTLE car doesnt have the big rear wing, a different colour, i think its a standard F1. U know the F1 thats Pic of the Month here on JW? thats the SUTLE car.
THe color of the paint job look similar. I just thought he might have gone out and got it modified to perform like a GTR. Both beautiful cars!!!
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Old 01-26-2004, 08:41 AM   #53
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Autocar figures for the Mclaren : 0-60 mph : 3.2s , 0-100 mph : 6.3s , standing 1/4 mile (400 m DA) : 11.1s , standing km : 19.6 s. These figures were checked two times by Best Motoring (video on Racingflix).
Autocar figures for the Koenigsegg : 0-60 mph : 4.4 s , 0-100 mph : 8.4 s , 1/4 mile : 12.3s , standing km : 21.4s
Auto Hebdo figures (with the same car as Autocar, perhaps not in optimal conditions) : 0-100 km/h (62 mph) : 4.8s , standing 400 m (1/4 mile) : 12.5s , standing km : 22.8 s.
It's even not on the same league as the Zonda (0-100 mph : 7.4s, km : 20.8s).
I like the Koenigsegg a lot, design, sound, but it promise more than it holds.
The Macca is always the King.
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Old 01-26-2004, 09:48 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by yg60m
Autocar figures for the Koenigsegg : 0-60 mph : 4.4 s , 0-100 mph : 8.4 s , 1/4 mile : 12.3s , standing km : 21.4s
What the fu** ?? These figs are very inaccuarate !! 4.4 secs to 60mph - thats about the same acceleration as the Vanquish, which has over 200bhp less, worse aerodynamics and is much heavier. Something ain't right here...
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