Is God evil?

[RC45]

Originally Posted by Mattk And he calls the professor "sir". That's pretty much illegal in my uni - we call them by their first names.

illegal?

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by Mattk And he calls the professor "sir". That's pretty much illegal in my uni - we call them by their first names. illegal?

i am telling you, they grow em stupid were he comes from...

[fabro_s]

So what happens when you die? what the fuck are we doing out here? why life? why the big bang? whats the point of living and working all your life and being a good person?
If there is no God? then what is this? whats the point of having feelings? whats the point of good and evil? we cannot see air, or oxygen but we can feel it and breathe it, thats why we know is right there, so dont bring me your bullshit statement of "If I dont see God I dont believe there is one", this topic doesnt have any sense because we will never have a conclusion, because everyone beilieves in what he whants.....

[acmarttin]

I dunno...I liked the story, but I looked up Einstein's biography on Wikipedia and according to that particular biography he never attended a "well-known institution of higher learning" in my opinon. From the looks of things he was a pretty poor student in school but taught himself a lot of pretty complicated mathematics.

Didn't want to really enter the meat grinder - but if you want to read it for yourslef go to www.wikipedia.org and look up 'ol Einie.

[ae86_16v]

"God does not play dice with the Universe." - Albert Einstein

[r2r]

All interesting responses,

One way to think about this though is to consider that God can represent a different thing to everyone, and not necessarily what Christians believe it to be, or any other religion for that matter. For example God can represent a piece of mind that you can have with yourself, or...


When Einstein was asked if he believed in God Einstein replied...

"I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."

Everybody can apply their logic from their personal experience if God does or does not exist,

like Einstein did, because in the end you can't really prove it either way,

because if we had we wouldn't have this argument today.

[Minacious]

Originally Posted by Erez Originally Posted by Minacious Cute. I bet the Devil throws the better parties. did you watch the latest south park ep? "ferrari cake"

No, but now I need to go watch it.

Oh yeah, as far as I see it religion is a crutch. I do respect others need to walk with that crutch though.

[gucom]

Originally Posted by r2r All interesting responses, One way to think about this though is to consider that God can represent a different thing to everyone, and not necessarily what Christians believe it to be, or any other religion for that matter. For example God can represent a piece of mind that you can have with yourself, or... When Einstein was asked if he believed in God Einstein replied... "I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind." Everybody can apply their logic from their personal experience if God does or does not exist, like Einstein did, because in the end you can't really prove it either way, because if we had we wouldn't have this argument today.

very true that... i was raised with the evolutionary theory, i've always liked and trusted science, and i'm not at all sure that god is a "tangible" something that makes things happen, or that has a goal in mind with people... but i'll probably never be sure, i think god, the meaning of life and all those things are different and personal things to every1, i cant possibly say some1's right or wrong (well except if they believe god wants them to kill some1, or placed 1 person above another for whatever reason... :roll: )
Anyway looking forward to see more comments

[saadie]

i got this in a forwarded mail like 4 years ago

these professors and students who are not involved in religious studies are nobody to to make their own deffinitions and theories.

[r2r]

^^What kind of religious studies are you talking about?

Neither You or I know how much “religious studies” the two people in this arguments had!

Or are you saying that if your not religious you can’t make any valid arguments toward religion?

[SFDMALEX]

Originally Posted by fabro_s So what happens when you die? what the fuck are we doing out here? why life? why the big bang? whats the point of living and working all your life and being a good person? If there is no God? then what is this? whats the point of having feelings? whats the point of good and evil? we cannot see air, or oxygen but we can feel it and breathe it, thats why we know is right there, so dont bring me your bullshit statement of "If I dont see God I dont believe there is one", this topic doesnt have any sense because we will never have a conclusion, because everyone beilieves in what he whants.....

Our very need for God is our inability to anwer the questions above.
It is our creation to help us understand all of that.

What is God? Which God are you talking about? Where the ancient Greeks and Romans wrong with their polytheism? Did they all go to hell because they didnt belive in one God?

We wrote all those Gods off and introduced the one and only almighty. And no one is even questioning that fact. So we might aswel write off the current God of Christianity, Islam, Judaism. But no! We need at least one God, because if we dont have one we wont have an answer to "why live?" and humans are just inncapable of living in a world where things cant be answered. The reason why we are the smartest animal is because of that fact. It is in our nature to find out how the world works. And if we cant answer something as basic as "moma why me alive" then whats the point of living. Hence we created God, Gods, Goddesses.


So once again if you choose to live with faith in "God" then all the power to you, I understand why you need that high power "outlet".

However I choose not to.


So why? We will never know, but that doesnt mean that I need to invent and create God or some other supenatural being to fictionaly answer that question. I'm better off not knowing the answer. You are obviously happier believing an abstract solution to the problem.

Religion is essential part of society. We live by it even if we dont follow any particular religion. I was raised on Christian values, and believe that many of them are the "right" way to live life. I was raised that way. I cant not simply write it off, it's a part of me (the Christian values).


But even though religion is a great invention, the act of others impossing it on society has always been the root of all problems. Soceity only became trully civilized when state and religion became seperated and religion became more of a private affair. And it should stay that way. The primanry source of law will always be religion, but thats as far as it should go on a government/state level.


P.S Besides I dont belive in sitting on a cloud for eternity. Would you really want that? Live in the infinity. I think Id go nuts. I want to live a full great life on this planet and when my come times dissapear like nothing happend. I dont belive in the midevil idea of life being a struggle and heaven being the only place to play golf with your buddies. Live your life like its your last day on the planet. Then you will be happy. And what happens after, is what happens after. Cant questions everything that is out there or else you'll turn 80 and remain a sad weak virgin.

[r2r]

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas Eisntein is Evil. His theories helped in great measure to develop the nuclear bomb.

Not exactly,

He was not involved in the development of the nuclear bomb,

what he did was help US start producing it first, by sending letters and asking US to do it before Germans got hold of the idea.

In a way he was put in the position that he couldn’t get out either way, and even though he did regret doing it later, can you imagine what would have happened if Hitler acquired it first!!!

[r2r]

^ and all of us would be driving Audi's, BMW's and Mercs

[gucom]

^^ if you'd thrown in porsches i might've agreed to the deal