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Old 10-26-2006, 06:39 PM   #1
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An argument that some of you might find interesting...



Did God create evil?

A University professor at a well-known institution of higher learning challenged his students with this question.

"Did God create everything that exists?"

A student bravely replied, "Yes he did!"

"God created everything?" The professor asked.

"Yes, sir, he certainly did," the student replied."

The professor answered, "If God created everything; then God created evil. And, since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are, then we can assume God is evil."

The student became quiet and did not answer the professor's hypothetical definition. The professor, quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

An other student raised his hand and said, "May I ask you a question, professor?"

"Of course," replied the professor.
The student stood up and asked, "Professor does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?"

The other students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.

Absolute zero (-460F) is the total absence of heat; and all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact, we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course, as I have already said. We see it everyday. It is in the daily examples of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist, sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a world that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

The young man's name -- Albert Einstein






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Old 10-26-2006, 06:49 PM   #2
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Interesting, is this true? This in fact does sound like an einstein-ism...

it is nicely written.
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Old 10-26-2006, 06:51 PM   #3
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im not christian but this described pretty well how i feel about things thx for it, was this really said by einstein?
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:03 PM   #4
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I'm not certain that this is in fact Einstein who argued the professor,

but I do know that Einstein was one of only few scientists that believed there is God.



As a side note, I'm on neither side of this argument!
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:36 PM   #5
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Well, I don't beleive in any religion, yet I'm not evil. I haven't killed anyone.
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:53 PM   #6
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a flaw in that reasoning was that the students went from physical phenomenon, which have been proven, to the concept of God, which can never be proven. Anytime people relate physics to God, it's total bullshit. I understand the reasoning behind it, but considering the concept of god parallel to things in the real world is just not right.

That said, I'm an atheist. To me I have never had a reason to believe in a god. I'm happy and live a good life. Perhaps being raised in a catholic family turned me off from religion.
If you are willing to believe that a deity created everything, what created that deity? If you are then willing to believe that this deity simply has existed forever, why not believe the universe (or the energy/matter from which it came) has existed forever?
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:59 PM   #7
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Cute. I bet the Devil throws the better parties.
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:08 PM   #8
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Evil is the absence of God? What kind of an argument is that? He has to prove God exists first. And he calls the professor "sir". That's pretty much illegal in my uni - we call them by their first names.
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:10 PM   #9
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well that makes a good point but, going along with racer_f50, the comparision of the two isn't correct. God is a belief, light and heat are physical, you can change them.

However going along of you need a good to have an evil, is one thing. but to say evil is due to a lack of god in ones life is flawed. there are many ways to live a "good" life and a "bad" yet not do damage in any way to anyone or thing.
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Old 10-26-2006, 10:22 PM   #10
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sounds like a nice story someone prob re-wrote many times till it sounded right
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Old 10-26-2006, 10:33 PM   #11
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Nicely written story. I wonder if it was from Albert.E also.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:28 PM   #12
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thats just fucking idiotic.. sounds like some hillbilly preacher..
"Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart" :roll:

I got the point at the start.. but that argument is just dumb..
god.. pff.. you show me god and i'll call you for the idiot that you are...
"god" is nothing more then men's incapability to deal with death, things he can explain, and the hope that this usually crappy ass world is not all that there is..

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did you watch the latest south park ep?
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:55 PM   #13
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what is that dumb ass question.. i have been so what?
and what the fuck does this mean? "Einstein not to mention a Jewish man but deeply faithful"
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:02 AM   #14
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Well how can you not belive in evolution.


People walked this earth since the big bang? The creation? LMAO If you belive that then fuck...just no comment man.



I respect religion and belive that it helps people. Believing in a higher power is a way to get things off our mind that are not capable in this "dimension" so to speak.


I agree with Erez, however if you belive in God then great. If it works for you and makes you a happier person. Fucking awesome!


Anyway dumb argument, because you can argue that religion is the root of all evil.


Pope Alexander Or the fact that you can summarize all of Western Europes history with Christianity. Fighting stabing and killing each other over religion. The inquistion and all the other wodnerful products of Catholicism. :roll: Fuck you can write more books on the subject then on anything else. Middle Ages to Reinassance to modern times. All based on bloodshed over religion. And now we get fucking terrorists who fight in the name of Allah too....aint it just wonderful?


P.S I went to a catholic school, and was baptised orthodox christian, so yea. I can say it.
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:05 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by Erez
and what the fuck does this mean? "Einstein not to mention a Jewish man but deeply faithful"
Yea, I dont understand when to people Jewish = Judaism by default.


I must say I know more Jewish people, Ukrainian, Russian, Polish, Israeli that are non religious then I know religious

And I know some Jewish people who are Christians too
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