Why "high HP" Euro cars are nothing new...

[RC45]

This is a post from a local Forum about a couple of recent get togethers and the numbers these guys put down in their street cars...

Originally Posted by Turtle and the Hare Andy: STS-South Texas / LMS C5 STS-TT 6.0psi w/TNT on pump 500-600+ vs. Jason: 383 stroker Z06 STS-TT 12.5psi on 104 gas 740.1 rwhp vs Kareem: Supramen and Autobanh "Black Beauty" Supra C16 800-900rwhp. vs Terry: LMS Porsche 996 TT "Silver Bullet" 700+hp 207mph vs Nick:Supraman and Autobanh "White Stallion" 2JZ PWR Supra 550-600rwhp vs. Tag: LMS "Yellow Bird" Porsche 996 TT 600hp+ vs Amar: Supraman and Autobanh "Steel V8 Kllr" (700+whp) vs Scott: RX7 LS1 "Mighty Monster" (too much rwhp) vs. Wally: SVT "Big Turkey" 543rwhp + 90 shot= 633rwhp vs. Raj: Supraman "another V8 killer" 600-700hp+ vs. Emory: Kenny Bell SVT Cobra 600+rwhp vs. Tommy: Autobahn Owner "Vegas Champ" C16 1100+ rwhp vs Henry: Supraman Supra w/ spray C16 900+rwhp vs Stephane: SHP Supra 1000+rwhp ( i think, it was 944rwhp) vs. Tony: Porsche 996 Prototype "Single turbo and NOS" rwhp? vs. Duy: Supraman Car Boy "Purple People Eater" w/ Spray 900+ vs. Sean: ATI Procharger "Blown Vette" Corvette C5 700hp+ vs. Anthony: 98 Hennessey Viper Venom 700R & spray 700+ hp vs. Andrew: Noble M12 GTO 3.5 L Twin Turbo (450hp at 2400lb) vs Peter: 2002 RSI Viper 8.0L Twin Turbo 900-1200rwhp vs Jay: Mustang Hatchback Turbo ???? + rwhp vs Blaine: 2003 Mustang Cobra - 9sec street car vs Tuan Le: 2000 Corvette Coupe 408ci & NX spray 700+ rwhp vs Daniel: 2001 Corvette Z06 Head/Cammed & spray 600+ rwhp vs Keith: 2005 Corvette C6 MTI 427 Devil Ray 500+ all motor vs Garett: 2003 Corvette Z06 408ci STS-TT & direct spray 700-900 vs Nick: 2003 Hayabusa Turbo 300+ rwhp vs Allan: 200? Hayabusa Turbo 300+ rwhp vs. Tiago: 99 Turbo LS1 Trans Am 615rwhp 643 rwtq vs. Bob: Supra Turbo "Peter Special" 1100-1200rwhp vs Robert: SnakeBit 04 SVT Cobra Whipple, Bassani,Tune 575 rwhp :dcn: vs Lyndon: SVT Cobra 482 hp (will need a shot :keke: ):nana: vs. Jason: Heffner Viper Supercharged V10 700+rwhp :teach:

[Pehtren]

big numbers is see that the viper is very popular, but the supras have got more power.

and there were some bikes

[JoeHahn]

What euro cars are you comparing and saying arent new? I know these kind of cars have been around for a while but the comparison?

...and yes, those Supras are scary

[RC45]

Originally Posted by JoeHahn What euro cars are you comparing and saying arent new? I know these kind of cars have been around for a while but the comparison? ...and yes, those Supras are scary

The comparison is "who cares about the veyron or V10 M5 or Gallardo or C-GT"... that's what.

There are very high HP hobbyist cars on the street every weekend out these parts...

So we don't need no stinking factory HP to make us feel good...

[pagani]

And i europe whe have a also some high power cars.
Like rod tharry's mad sierra saff cosworth 850+ bhp whit nos and race fuel ,660 bhp on pump fuel 750 bhp on race fuel no nos.
The engine in the sierra is only 2100cc or 2,1 liter.

Robert uhr's 650 bhp saab 900 turbo whit 2.5 litre engine huge turbo and fwd good allround fast car.

Here is way this sierra cosworth kills al supercars on accleration and in gear also.
Btw these are old perfomance stats whit older spec engine.
current time for 1-250 km/h is 13,2 seconds thats faster than a veyron.

McLAREN F1 3.2

PORSCHE GT1 3.7

PAGANI ZONDA 3.7

JAGUAR XJ220 3.8

TVR CERBERA 4.5 4.0

LAMBORGINI MURCIELAGO 4.0

MY FORD COSWORTH 4.1

PORSCHE 911 TURBO 4.3

FERRARI F360
4.6

0-100

MAKE MODEL 0-100

McLAREN F1 6.3

MY FORD COSWORTH 7.1

PORSCHE GT1 7.2

PAGANI ZONDA 7.4

JAGUAR XJ220 7.8

FERRARI F360
8.8
TVR CERBERA 4.5 8.9

PORSCHE 911 TURBO 9.2

LAMBORGINI MURCIELAGO 9.1


MID - RANGE ACCELERATION

60-100

MODEL 60-100

COSWORTH 3.1

McLAREN F1 3.1

PORSCHE GT1 3.4

PAGANI ZONDA 3.7

JAGUAR XJ220 4.2

FERRARI F360
4.6
TVR CERBERA 4.5 4.8

LAMBORGINI MURCIELAGO 5.1

PORSCHE 911 TURBO 5.5


MAXIMUM SPEED

MAKE MODEL MAX

McLAREN F1 231

JAGUAR XJ220 213

PAGANI ZONDA 210

MY FORD COSWORTH 206

LAMBORGINI MURCIELAGO 205

PORSCHE GT1 192

FERRARI F360
184
TVR CERBERA 4.5 180

PORSCHE 911 TURBO 180


QUARTER MILE TIME

MAKE MODEL SECS

McLAREN F1 11.1

MY FORD COSWORTH 11.5

PORSCHE GT1 11.6

JAGUAR XJ220 11.7

PAGANI ZONDA 11.8

LAMBORGINI MURCIELAGO 12.1

PORSCHE 911 TURBO 12.3

FERRARI F360
12.3
TVR CERBERA 4.5 12.4


QUARTER MILE TERMINAL

MAKE MODEL MPH

McLAREN F1 138

MY FORD COSWORTH 138

PORSCHE GT1 134

PAGANI ZONDA 129

FERRARI F360
120
TVR CERBERA 4.5 118

LAMBORGINI MURCIELAGO 116

PORSCHE 911 TURBO 115

JAGUAR XJ220 N/A


Kismo r34 skyline

0-100 3,333 secs.

0-300 19,55 secs.

Quarter mile 10,847 secs 221,93 km/h 1,2 bar boost
The bottomline is stock supercars are have no straightline accleration and some are only fast on topspeed.
Maby they are better in the corners.

[RC45]

Originally Posted by everso Originally Posted by RC45 The comparison is "who cares about the veyron or V10 M5 or Gallardo or C-GT"... that's what. There are very high HP hobbyist cars on the street every weekend out these parts... So we don't need no stinking factory HP to make us feel good... it's not about JUST HP, and numbers....or else you should post the 600hp Neons which trash Z06s too. I was just told about my TT having a new APR Stage 3 Kit which pushes the HP up to 400hp, which will allow my car to embarass many supercars.....but that's not the point....cars are not just about numbers. it's about styling, integration, technology, handling, pushing borders of production, production techniques. You're right in that there are plenty of cars pushing HP up......but they still don't carry the whole package. i'm sorry but i'm not particularly interested in driving a 1000hp Supra assembled by 2 drunk fat men as their "hobby".....i'll have my Veyron now

Ah - the guy with the chicks car is jealous..

[RC45]

Originally Posted by pagani And i europe whe have a also some high power cars. Like rod tharry's mad sierra saff cosworth 850+ bhp whit nos and race fuel ,660 bhp on pump fuel 750 bhp on race fuel no nos.

Sure 1 Cossy Sierra... that list is just the cars in a 100 mile radius..

There are more 200mph+ capable cars in Houston than cars Lamborghini sells per year...

[SFDMALEX]

Originally Posted by everso Originally Posted by RC45 Ah - the guy with the chicks car is jealous.. obviously not as much as the man with the most common midlife crisis car

OHHH OHHHH

BURN BURN BURN


*where is this going to go???gets some popcron*

[RC45]

Originally Posted by everso Originally Posted by RC45 Ah - the guy with the chicks car is jealous.. obviously not as much as the man with the most common midlife crisis car

At 4000 cars produced per year, this car is right there with that common or garden variety F360 isn't it?

I mean Ferrari used to make 1500 cars a year at one time, noe they spit out a 1000 cars a month

Oh and there is nothing "midlife" about a 33 year old buying a sports car...

Originally Posted by brembo Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by pagani And i europe whe have a also some high power cars. Like rod tharry's mad sierra saff cosworth 850+ bhp whit nos and race fuel ,660 bhp on pump fuel 750 bhp on race fuel no nos. Sure 1 Cossy Sierra... that list is just the cars in a 100 mile radius.. There are more 200mph+ capable cars in Houston than cars Lamborghini sells per year... LOL I live in small place dude only 1000 people or so, and we got plenty of high powered cars here capable of high speeds and great accleration, and this is in a nation where according to you we are not allowed to do anything and everything are so expensive that nobody can afford anything.....so pr capita we piss on your list by far.....

OK - put your dick where your mouth is - and piss away... letrs see the list of high hp, high speed cars in your village

And that list is simply the folks who have attended a local forum get together - it's not a list of all cars by a long shot...

[jon_s]

Just sounds like a V-Max event over here. Who cares if is stock/modified/common or rare. The fact is they all kick ass!

To be fair, High HP in general is nothing new. In fact, some 'supercars' have been getting slower...Anyone remember the Top Gear vid/Clarkson vid with the XJ220 that kicked some more modern ass!

The yanks must be doing something right (finally) as the Saleen S7 and the new Z06 are the first yank'tanks that I would actually consider spending hard earned cash on.

[SFDMALEX]

Originally Posted by RC45 The comparison is "who cares about the veyron or V10 M5 or Gallardo or C-GT"... that's what. There are very high HP hobbyist cars on the street every weekend out these parts... So we don't need no stinking factory HP to make us feel good...

Whats your point?

[mindgam3]

Originally Posted by jon_s Just sounds like a V-Max event over here. Who cares if is stock/modified/common or rare. The fact is they all kick ass! To be fair, High HP in general is nothing new. In fact, some 'supercars' have been getting slower...Anyone remember the Top Gear vid/Clarkson vid with the XJ220 that kicked some more modern ass! The yanks must be doing something right (finally) as the Saleen S7 and the new Z06 are the first yank'tanks that I would actually consider spending hard earned cash on.

A significant amount of the S7 was engineered by British company RML, as was all the S7 racecars

I have to say, i'd take a Z06 over and Audi TT ANYDAY, and thats saying something

Infact i'd have a regular vettre over a TT. The TT is a pure hairdressers car through and through - the ideal fashion victims car

[RC45]

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas ... mine is 'bigger' and 'longer' :roll:

Nope - just faster and sounds better

[RC45]

Originally Posted by brembo Originally Posted by RC45 OK - put your dick where your mouth is - and piss away... letrs see the list of high hp, high speed cars in your village And that list is simply the folks who have attended a local forum get together - it's not a list of all cars by a long shot... I do not feel the need to post a list of cars as this is easy math dude, we are 1000 people living here and you are more than 2 million in Houston, there are no way in hell there are more high powered cars there pr capita than here....so just put that dick right back in your mouth and piss away dude.....

Atually the greater Houston area is probably 3 or 4 million... with an entire extended tax base (for GST etc) of abotu 6 million..

Per capita is just a statistical variant invented to keep small crusty euro-viallages/villagers from commiting mass-suicide as they really have no impact on much at all

Back to the original intent of the thread - a blanket insult to everthing Continental Europe... We have more and faster "hobbyists" cars tooling around on pump gas, than the total number "wannabes" in the entire region back there.

[JoeHahn]

Originally Posted by RC45 Per capita is just a statistical variant invented to keep small crusty euro-viallages/villagers from commiting mass-suicide as they really have no impact on much at all

That sounds similar to what Americans say about BHP/Litre