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ChickenShift · 04-01-2005, 12:41 AM

I am trying to decide between these 3 cars that are all around the 30k (USD) mark. What do you think? Any other new cars in this price range you think would be better?

Thanks

SilviaEvo · 04-01-2005, 12:43 AM

i masturbate the STi or the S2K depends on your driving style

ChickenShift · 04-01-2005, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by SilviaEvo

i masturbate the STi or the S2K depends on your driving style

Funny, why do you say that? I drive a RSX-S now but am really leaning towards the GTO. I mean it is just a monster for that price. The 5.7 version was loved on Top Gear.

SilviaEvo · 04-01-2005, 12:58 AM

id take the STi because i like Rally and the fun of sliding sometimes. It is lighter than the GTO also it gets to 60 .1 seconds faster

not much difference but i would prefer the STi the S2K is only good for getting chicks. also the STi can be safe and fun. also it is a Subaru so it is good value and shouldnt break down too often

komotar · 04-01-2005, 02:36 AM

think

<EDIT> just checking if I'm right about dan's newest joke.....

I'd take the STI better allrounder than others.

When that turbo kicks in, you're flying 8)

>EDIT< so D.A.N. is L.U.K.E

GTO · 04-01-2005, 02:57 AM

Only one way to decide, test drive 'em all, let the vehicle tell you the answer.

Personally (obviously) go the STi. After my WRX I got to drive a GTO (Manaro here) lately to see what I thought after my vehicle. To me it felt heavy, on acceleration and particulary corners, it felt "tall". It sounds awesome but on twisties and/or bad weather the GTO would get left behind the STi.
S2K I got to drive against on some wet twisties, yeah its ok but it got left for dead by my stock WRX. The new model comming out looks good but yeah nothing to write home about except it being a convertable, more show than go compared to the GTO and STi.
Still I love the GTO though.

@SilviaEvo, if you like sliding go the S2k, it takes effort to powerslide a WRX, RWD with the traction control off, easy as. The new 05STi had DCCD which you can set the center diffrential to distubute the power to the rear making it behave like a RWD vehicle to some extent.

Have you considered the Subaru Liberty (Legacy GT)? It pwnes and its luxary.

blah · 04-01-2005, 03:18 AM

I think id get the GTO. Then again i live in SoCal and i could use it all year round. Depending on were you live would decide between STi and GTO. S2k would not be a choice to me, im to tall for it, and its simply not pratical enough.

Resandev · 04-01-2005, 03:32 AM

It depends on your taste.

The S2000 is a demanding sports car. The fastest of the three in a track with normal grip.

The Sti is also a very good car. Great chassis stiffness, hard turn in, very good gearbox ratios and an engine that requires high revs. Of course there are plenty of modifications you can do on the Sti. The most 'overall' of the three.
Some say that the engine of this car already works in high temperatures and wouldn't be too wise to tune it further. But I suppose it depends on the tuning. What the car definitely needs (if you can handle the noise) is an exhaust system. Reduces turbo-lag and increases greatly the power.

The GTO is more of a fun car. You can't call it a sports car.
It's a funny giant as yo said.

I would peek the S2000 for a second car, or a track day car, or if I didn't need space.
Otherwise the Sti.

I would suggest you to drive the cars as allready mentioned

RC45 · 04-01-2005, 03:57 AM

The GTO has the greatest and cheapest mod potential of all.

The S2000 is very cramped vehicle for daily use - very cramped.

The STi is nice and all but if the long term tests the mags did are anything to go by, these high-strung Jap 4-bangers just don't seem to hold together that well after 40 or 50,000 miles of hard charging.

GTO · 04-01-2005, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Resandev

Some say that the engine of this penis extension already works in high temperatures and wouldn't be too wise to tune it further. But I suppose it depends on the tuning. What the penis extension definitely needs (if you can handle the noise) is an exhaust system. Reduces turbo-lag and increases greatly the power.

Not really club members push their STi hard in terms of tuning and driving, the STi is very tough vehicle, the STI EJ207 engine is a tough blueprint motor, people here even bore it out from 2.0L to 2.2L, in the US the 2.5L engine is STD, however we have RON 98 fuel. Lag now is greatly reduced boost starts at 2K now then really kicks in at 4k. The STi exhaust system does not require tuning even with a modded engine.

Originally Posted by RC45

The STi is nice and all but if the long term tests the mags did are anything to go by, these high-strung Jap 4-bangers just don't seem to hold together that well after 40 or 50,000 miles of hard charging.

Disagree, club member been racing their STi's for almost a decade and use them as daily driver cars, no big issues, just consumables; brakes, filters, linings etc..

Originally Posted by RC45

The GTO has the greatest and cheapest mod potential of all.

Definalty a simple Superchrager set up and you can break into 10's with a 6L GTO, the STi it takes seriuos tuning to get even near that, 11's maybe.

dingo · 04-01-2005, 07:50 AM

As an Aussie I should say take the GTO.....but personally I would take the STi

It really depends on what type of c.a.r your after - they are two very different cars (heavy RWD/V8 v lighter AWD/4cyl)

I am hoping to get a '01 or '02 WRX soon and it was between that and a VT SS which is RWD sedan with the 5.7L LS1 V8 - but there are just too many Commodores around here so I decided on the Rex. That might not be the case over there since I don't know how common STi's and GTO's are.

Oh and I forgot the S2K - not a fan really

ARMAN · 04-01-2005, 07:54 AM

STi would be my choice. Its AWD, japanese quality, good looking, only 2 liters(lower insurance), beautiful boxer sound, good pedegree.

dingo · 04-01-2005, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by ARMAN

.....only 2 liters(lower insurance)......

I wouldn't be so sure about that, here at least they are common targets for thiefs and obviously because they are fast the insurance is high

I just got a couple of qoutes for the MY01 WRX and its around $AU 1300/year, so for an STi it would be even higher

JiggaStyles09 · 04-01-2005, 10:31 AM

i would prefer the GTO especially since it has the new 6.0L for 2005 and 400hp. i have also heard good things about the GTO's interior compared to most american muscle cars from magazines and what not. but the subaru is definitly a quality choice as well. s2k is eh IMO but thats just me. like most have said it depends on your personal tastes. and test driving all of them would be a good indication of what you would like best. i dont believe you can make a bad choice with these automobiles.

666fast · 04-01-2005, 05:55 PM

When the STi's first came out here, the transfer cases would blow all the time. I dont' know whats been doen to fix it, but if you are buying used, start doing some homework.

Have you considered an Evo 8? You could get the MR with $30k. I've driven both the STi an the Evo 8, the STi is faster but the Evo is a hell of a lot more fun to drive. IMO anyway.

I've never driven a S2000, but I've been in one. So that makes me an expert! LOL They are quick. But if this is a car you have to live with on a daily basis, think long and hard. I certainly wouldn't want to drive it daily. How tall are you? My friend is 6'4", his head was above the windshield.

I think the GTO is a hell of a deal. 400bhp for only $30k. If you buy one now you could probably get a hell of a deal on one since nobody is buying them. Same for the Evo's. The GTO will be hell on gas though!

Out of the three you mentioned, it would be a tough choice between the STi and the GTO. Ultimatey I think I'd end up with the STi though. Only because 400bhp rear wheel drive cars and snow don't get along. Take away the snow, and it would be a very tough choice.
Throw in the Evo though, I'd get the Evo everytime.

You didn't mention it, but how about the new Mustang?