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Old 05-16-2005, 10:01 PM   #1
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Default ***2005 Monte Carlo GP***



Race Final
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes Winner
2 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW +13.8 secs
3 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW +18.4 secs
4 5 Fernando Alonso Renault +36.4 secs
5 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes +36.6 secs
6 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota +37.1 secs
7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari +37.2 secs
8 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari +37.5 secs
9 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas +1 Lap
10 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota +1 Lap
11 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas +1 Lap
12 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault +1 Lap
13 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota +3 Lap
14 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth +5 Lap
Ret 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing +19 Lap
Ret 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth +49 Laps
Ret 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing +55 Laps
Ret 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota +60 Laps

Track Info:
# Location: Monte-Carlo, Monaco
# Direction: clockwise
# Lap Length: 3.340km
# Race Laps: 78
# Race Legnth: 260.52km
# Lap Record: 1:14.439 (Michael Schumacher, 2004)

# About this circuit
# Monaco is probably the most famous Grand Prix of all. A tight, demanding street circuit at which overtaking is almost impossible, meaning pole position can be decisive. The circuit is very hard on the drivers, with a typical lap requiring 36 gear changes - a total of over 2800 per race! It is not so hard on the engine of the car, as it is rarely operating on full power.

The roads have very little grip to begin with, so in wet weather, the sight of cars sliding into the barriers is very common. Teams raise the driving height of their cars, and opt for high downforce on this circuit.
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Old 05-17-2005, 01:38 PM   #2
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Kimi is going to win this one methinks. Schumi will be cursed by his poor QLF1 starting spot
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Old 05-17-2005, 03:56 PM   #3
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i think that the renaults have the best chances to win. their traction control is the best in the formel 1 and with alonso or fisico their have very good drivers. with the very small corners the track is ideal for renault power . so i think that it will be very complicated especially for ferrari to beat the others. but lets see what the options are
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Old 05-18-2005, 06:43 AM   #4
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I think the performance of the Mclarens and the Renautls will be more or less equal. But I'm betting on Kimi winning it bar any mechinical mishaps.

Ferrari nor Toyota or Williams will do too well. Fisi will beat alonso. That's my 2 cents worth anyway.
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Old 05-18-2005, 09:12 AM   #5
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but last year Jarno Trulli won the race. so i think that he is also a candidate for the victory. and in the last two races toyota had a good and fast pace.
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:09 AM   #6
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Last year Renault had a very rear biased weight distribution, this helped them to accelerate at low speeds. I dont know if they have changed their weight distribution for this year, but I would take a punt that they have.

As Gascoyne is now technical director at Toyota it wouldnt surprise me one iota if they were running a rear biased weight distribution. If this is the case then I would expect Trulli to be very competitive around the streets.

On the other hand Webber has traditionally been fast at Monaco, I expect him to overqualify the car once again. Providing he gets a decent start I think a podium is on the cards for him.

However overall the status quo shouldnt be all that different to previous races, Raikkonnen and Alonso fighting for the win, potentially with a couple of wildcards thrown in to make things interesting, I cant wait.
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Old 05-19-2005, 04:56 AM   #7
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Either Mclaren or Renautls team will win this.. But I will be with Renautl if I had to choose. Good luck to all the team though.. This is the best year in F1 in a while..
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Old 05-19-2005, 10:52 AM   #8
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Looks like Ferrari will not be a serious contender this weekend

Monaco: Thursday Free 1 - Times

19/05/2005

Pos Driver Team T Time Gap
1 Montoya McLaren M 1:17.152 96.836 mph
2 Alonso Renault M 1:17.301 0.149
3 Klien Red Bull M 1:17.511 0.359
4 M Schumacher Ferrari B 1:17.640 0.488
5 Fisichella Renault M 1:17.869 0.717
6 Wurz McLaren M 1:18.059 0.907
7 Webber WilliamsF1 M 1:18.244 1.092
8 R Schumacher Toyota M 1:18.482 1.330
9 Coulthard Red Bull M 1:18.669 1.517
10 Barrichello Ferrari B 1:18.838 1.686
11 Heidfeld WilliamsF1 M 1:18.859 1.707
12 Raikkonen McLaren M 1:19.055 1.903
13 Trulli Toyota M 1:19.255 2.103
14 Villeneuve Sauber M 1:19.755 2.603
15 Liuzzi Red Bull M 1:19.844 2.692
16 Massa Sauber M 1:20.180 3.028
17 Zonta Toyota M 1:20.979 3.827
18 Doornbos Jordan B 1:21.511 4.359
19 Friesacher Minardi B 1:21.968 4.816
20 Monteiro Jordan B 1:22.388 5.236
21 Karthikeyan Jordan B 1:23.521 6.369
22 Albers Minardi B 1:25.664 8.512


Monaco: Thursday Free 2 - Times

19/05/2005

Pos Driver Team T Time Gap
1 Alonso Renault M 1:15.835 98.518 mph
2 Wurz McLaren M 1:15.912 0.077
3 Coulthard Red Bull M 1:16.184 0.349
4 Fisichella Renault M 1:16.519 0.684
5 Montoya McLaren M 1:16.534 0.699
6 Raikkonen McLaren M 1:16.558 0.723
7 Liuzzi Red Bull M 1:16.640 0.805
8 Massa Sauber M 1:16.914 1.079
9 R Schumacher Toyota M 1:16.917 1.082
10 Zonta Toyota M 1:17.046 1.211
11 M Schumacher Ferrari B 1:17.170 1.335
12 Webber WilliamsF1 M 1:17.422 1.587
13 Trulli Toyota M 1:17.487 1.652
14 Villeneuve Sauber M 1:17.506 1.671
15 Barrichello Ferrari B 1:17.663 1.828
16 Heidfeld WilliamsF1 M 1:17.667 1.832
17 Klien Red Bull M 1:18.815 2.980
18 Doornbos Jordan B 1:19.526 3.691
19 Friesacher Minardi B 1:19.587 3.752
20 Monteiro Jordan B 1:20.284 4.449
21 Karthikeyan Jordan B 1:21.879 6.044
22 Albers Minardi B 1:22.162 6.327
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:07 PM   #9
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this is alonso's race to loose, so if everything goes well, he will be on top of the podium, and perhaps will be joined by fisichella, at either two or three, while coulthard, raikkonen and schumi are wild cards here, especially kimi and schumi, because if their cars hold up all race long, they are more than capable of getting to the podium here, although not at P1, schumi is due for a big win, but not this time, not yet, even if his tyres stay intact ... we shall see
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Old 05-19-2005, 03:02 PM   #10
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Schumi will prolly not in the top 3.
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Old 05-20-2005, 07:12 AM   #11
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normally the usual racers don't set those fast times. It's a wonder why Alonso felt the need to do so. Usually on Friday/Thursday it's always the 3rd drivers doing the timesheet toping.

Under pressure?
Showing who's boss?

I think Mclaren are the ones in best shape for pole and the win.
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:09 AM   #12
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I'm thinking kimi's going to take 1st this weekend. I wouldn't rule out Montoya (for once) this race as he's looked fairly fast.

I'm betting 2 renaults, 2 mclarens and 2 toyotas in the top 6
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Old 05-20-2005, 10:06 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Ronin005
Originally Posted by Poldi
but last year Jarno Trulli won the race. so i think that he is also a candidate for the victory. and in the last two races toyota had a good and fast pace.
well if you want to go at it that way, then i say MS will win since he has won 5 times there, only Senna i believe has won more with 6 wins there.
what happens in the past, has no direct effect of what will happen in the future.
thats right but monaco isn´t a easy track. not all drivers have the qualification to do a good job. but jarno won last year and i want to say that he knows how to go very fast on this track

ferrari have problems with their cars. michael has some vibrations and the team don't know from where they comes.
However this will be a very interesting race this weekend
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Old 05-21-2005, 08:52 AM   #14
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ok here are the results from the first qualifying

1. Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:13,644 Min.

2. Fernando Alonso Renault 1:14,125

3. Mark Webber BMW-Williams 1:14,584

4. Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:14,783

5. Juan Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:14,858

6. Nick Heidfeld BMW-Williams 1:15,128

7. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:15,189

8. David Coulthard Red Bull 1:15,329

9. Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:15,921

10. Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:16,142

11. Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:16,186

12. Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:16,218

13. Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull 1:16,817

14. Patrick Friesacher Minardi 1:18,574

15. Cristijan Albers Minardi 1:19,229

16. Tiago Monteiro Jordan 1:19,408

17. Narain Karthikeyan Jordan 1:19,474

18. Ralf Schumacher Toyota no time*

*Ralf had a very horrible crash but he is unhurt
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Old 05-21-2005, 09:30 AM   #15
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Wow there seems to be a fair share of crashes, Ferrri are down on the grid again, I wonder if those Bridgestones are hurting them? Who knows but they dont seem to be adapting like the rest of the teams. I am looking forward to seeing this one, I love Monaco!
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