08-15-2009, 06:46 PM
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Testing The 2010 Roush Mustang 427R
New roush mustang review

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08-16-2009, 12:50 AM
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Seems to have slowed down and got fatter since last years models.
It makes a used C5 Z06 for $22,000 seem like performance bargain it is. 9 years later its still fatsrer, lighter, quicker and nimbler than a $50K speciality Mustang.
I think that is the real pity, that even after all these years, the Mustang tuners cant deliver on their high priced packages.
I saw one in person a few nights back, and it sounds fantastic, but looks really bloated and top heavy and awkward. Everytime I see "the latest" trick Mustang in the flesh, I appreciate the 2000 Cobra R even more.
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08-16-2009, 02:01 AM
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Not impressed with the numbers for (well over) 50k.
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08-16-2009, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Seems to have slowed down and got fatter since last years models.
It makes a used C5 Z06 for $22,000 seem like performance bargain it is. 9 years later its still fatsrer, lighter, quicker and nimbler than a $50K speciality Mustang.
I think that is the real pity, that even after all these years, the Mustang tuners cant deliver on their high priced packages.
I saw one in person a few nights back, and it sounds fantastic, but looks really bloated and top heavy and awkward. Everytime I see "the latest" trick Mustang in the flesh, I appreciate the 2000 Cobra R even more.
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I guess your right i find it strange that no mustang tuners do's something about the heavy weight.
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08-16-2009, 12:47 PM
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it could be worse, it could be a BMW M3 (1300kg for original 80s homologation car vs today's 1655 kg luxury coupe). and also the mustang gt is still a lot lighter than its main competitors the dodge charger r/t and camaro ss (granted less powerful than both of them, but the upcoming 5.0l V8 will adress that problem).
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08-16-2009, 03:00 PM
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and let's not forget the axle rear.
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09-07-2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
and let's not forget the axle rear.
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The live rear axle you mean? It is in there because that's what most mustang enthusiasts wanted from the factory! They used an IRS system in the 03/04 cobra mustangs but many were swapped back to a live rear axle. The mustang will never handle like a corvette or other high-performance vehicles simply because of weight issues, as well as suspension geometry and cost limitations, so expecting it to do so is not exactly fair. It can offer a great deal of performance for the price and the newer 2005+ mustangs actually handle quite well, especially with some simple modifications to the springs/dampers/sway bars etc. They no longer have the triangulated 4-link of the pre-05 mustangs which is prone to binding and twitchy on tracks, plus the newer cars have better front/rear weight distribution and overall better suspension geometry. Compare them to the other two vehicles in their market and the mustang is tough to beat, even with less power.
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09-07-2009, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hemi_fan
The live rear axle you mean? It is in there because that's what most mustang enthusiasts wanted from the factory! They used an IRS system in the 03/04 cobra mustangs but many were swapped back to a live rear axle. The mustang will never handle like a corvette or other high-performance vehicles simply because of weight issues, as well as suspension geometry and cost limitations, so expecting it to do so is not exactly fair. It can offer a great deal of performance for the price and the newer 2005+ mustangs actually handle quite well, especially with some simple modifications to the springs/dampers/sway bars etc. They no longer have the triangulated 4-link of the pre-05 mustangs which is prone to binding and twitchy on tracks, plus the newer cars have better front/rear weight distribution and overall better suspension geometry. Compare them to the other two vehicles in their market and the mustang is tough to beat, even with less power.
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What the rights mods mustang can handle very good
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09-09-2009, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pagani
What the rights mods mustang can handle very good

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With the right mods a kia can be fast.
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09-09-2009, 05:50 PM
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I have never been a big fan of the Roush Mustang and I am still not a believer of live rear axle.
If I had $50k for a Mustang and didn't care about resel value I would go with the Saleen's.
For this money I zould rather buy a second hand Z06, M3 or Porsche.
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09-09-2009, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gigdy
With the right mods a kia can be fast.
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I spewed coffee over my monitor over that post
you mean with an engine swap right?
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09-10-2009, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 10000rpmlover
I spewed coffee over my monitor over that post
you mean with an engine swap right?
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tube chassis
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09-12-2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gigdy
With the right mods a kia can be fast.
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lol...thank you
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