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RAMMIUS · 12-22-2005, 05:45 AM

http://www2.jgtc.net/gtcgi/prg/NList...005468&List=13

bmagni · 12-22-2005, 02:11 PM

we all love the MCC

nthfinity · 12-22-2005, 02:28 PM

Maserati MC12 to Feature in 2006 SUPER GT

Joining the 24 teams already in SUPER GT, it was announced today at the 2005 SUPER GT Awards that 2004 Le Mans-winning outfit Team Goh will campaign a Maserati MC12 in the series next season.(Image is No. 9 Vitaphone Maserati - FIA GT Championship 2005 http://www.fiagt.com/)

Competing in the series for the first time since 1996, Team Goh will run one of the Italian supercars next year, and will feature the driver pairing of Dane Jan Magnussen and Japanese pilot Seiji Ara, one of the trio who took victory at Le Mans last year in the squad's Audi R8.

It was also officially announced that the car will run on Bridgestone rubber. A video-link address by team director Mr Kazumichi Goh made official the 2004 Le Mans-winning outfit's commitment to SUPER GT for 2006.

Other new machines will also feature in 2006. In GT300, the arrival of a Ford GT will be a crowd-pleaser; as well as the announcement of the Mooncraft 'Shiden' (taken from the name given to the successor to the famous Japanese 'Zero' warplane) concept car.

The 2006 SUPER GT season begins on the March 18-19 weekend at Okayama International Circuit, the first of nine rounds next year.

Magnusun? i wonder if its what he does with his off time from being the GM factory driver? sounds cool... and definatley the 'coolest' car in the JGTC field IMO

SFDMALEX · 12-22-2005, 04:34 PM

blah JGTC sucks, now it might be worth watching.

RC45 · 12-22-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by nthfinity

Maserati MC12 to Feature in 2006 SUPER GT

Joining the 24 teams already in SUPER GT, it was announced today at the 2005 SUPER GT Awards that 2004 Le Mans-winning outfit Team Goh will campaign a Maserati MC12 in the series next season.(Image is No. 9 Vitaphone Maserati - FIA GT Championship 2005 http://www.fiagt.com/)

Competing in the series for the first time since 1996, Team Goh will run one of the Italian supercars next year, and will feature the driver pairing of Dane Jan Magnussen and Japanese pilot Seiji Ara, one of the trio who took victory at Le Mans last year in the squad's Audi R8.

It was also officially announced that the car will run on Bridgestone rubber. A video-link address by team director Mr Kazumichi Goh made official the 2004 Le Mans-winning outfit's commitment to SUPER GT for 2006.

Other new machines will also feature in 2006. In GT300, the arrival of a Ford GT will be a crowd-pleaser; as well as the announcement of the Mooncraft 'Shiden' (taken from the name given to the successor to the famous Japanese 'Zero' warplane) concept car.

The 2006 SUPER GT season begins on the March 18-19 weekend at Okayama International Circuit, the first of nine rounds next year.

Magnusun? i wonder if its what he does with his off time from being the GM factory driver? sounds cool... and definatley the 'coolest' car in the JGTC field IMO

I think these sports car drivers are like freelance writers - they have a contractual commitment to "appear at agreed upon events" - but unlike NASCRAP (and maybe Forumla Scum) drivers are able to freelance every other waking moment.

which is probably what they have to do to make the kind of stupid money the NASCRAP guys pull int..

SFDMALEX · 12-22-2005, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas

If I'm not wrong... tha japanese Super GT has a very 'open' reglament, which means than almost everything is allowed. Would be nice to see how the MC12 fits there, coming from the FIA GT, which is basically the opposite

It wont do good trust me mate. In JGCT its a joke. You are basicly allowed to do whatever the hell you want to all four corners. There are more electornics in those cars then then there is motor.

Hence I cant stand that series....The car drives you.....too much electornics. Every aid imagined is allowed.

nthfinity · 12-24-2005, 11:56 PM

I think these sports car drivers are like freelance writers - they have a contractual commitment to "appear at agreed upon events" - but unlike NASCRAP (and maybe Forumla Scum) drivers are able to freelance every other waking moment.

which is probably what they have to do to make the kind of stupid money the NASCRAP guys pull int..

i cant say im suprised... since porsche factory drivers would find other rides when thier factory wouldn't show up... or for some reason wanted to try some fresh blood temporarily for a race.

about the nascrap boys...
Dont care 8) it is unfortunate that such money goes into something so shitty

911GT1 · 01-04-2006, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas

If I'm not wrong... tha japanese Super GT has a very 'open' reglament, which means than almost everything is allowed. Would be nice to see how the MC12 fits there, coming from the FIA GT, which is basically the opposite

It wont do good trust me mate. In JGCT its a joke. You are basicly allowed to do whatever the hell you want to all four corners. There are more electornics in those cars then then there is motor.

Hence I cant stand that series....The car drives you.....too much electornics. Every aid imagined is allowed.

Oh please... most of you dont know what the hell you're talking about. I bet none of you guys actually watch any JGTC races. Read...

http://supergt.net/supergt/whats/regu05e_tech.htm

Prohibited systems etc
- Anti-lock braking systems (ABS)
- Traction control systems
- Semi-automatic or automatic gearboxes
- Power actuated clutches
- Electronically or automatically-adjusted final drive differential systems (ex.:differentials with air pressurizing or hydraulic slip controls, or with electronic controls and/or outer pumps)
- Electronically or automatically adjusted shock absorbers, suspension or ride height adjustment
- 4-wheel steering
- Moveable ballast
- Electronic control systems with closed-loop circuits other than engine
- Gear change assist systems (the systems which make gear changes easier through the use of a temporal control of propulsion systems when a driver changes gear); Devices that allow a driver to adjust shock absorbers and suspension springs from the driver's seat when the car is in motion
- Telemetry
- Throttle control systems of which the control method is not a direct mechanical linkage between the throttle pedal and engine are all prohibited.

SuperGT cars makes F1 cars looks like a space shuttle. I for one have attended every JGTC races since 2000. The only time I missed it was because of the SARS scare when it was cancelled. If offers a way better entertaiment value than most F1 races. On track or off track. Theres no such thing as domination in JGTC. Everybody have a chance of winning.

Also interesting to note that a Ford GT will be run next year in GT300 class.

http://www2.jgtc.net/gtcgi/prg/NList...005479&List=13

SFDMALEX · 01-04-2006, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by 911GT1

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas

If I'm not wrong... tha japanese Super GT has a very 'open' reglament, which means than almost everything is allowed. Would be nice to see how the MC12 fits there, coming from the FIA GT, which is basically the opposite

It wont do good trust me mate. In JGCT its a joke. You are basicly allowed to do whatever the hell you want to all four corners. There are more electornics in those cars then then there is motor.

Hence I cant stand that series....The car drives you.....too much electornics. Every aid imagined is allowed.

Oh please... most of you dont know what the hell you're talking about. I bet none of you guys actually watch any JGTC races. Read...

http://supergt.net/supergt/whats/regu05e_tech.htm

Prohibited systems etc
- Anti-lock braking systems (ABS)
- Traction control systems
- Semi-automatic or automatic gearboxes
- Power actuated clutches
- Electronically or automatically-adjusted final drive differential systems (ex.:differentials with air pressurizing or hydraulic slip controls, or with electronic controls and/or outer pumps)
- Electronically or automatically adjusted shock absorbers, suspension or ride height adjustment
- 4-wheel steering
- Moveable ballast
- Electronic control systems with closed-loop circuits other than engine
- Gear change assist systems (the systems which make gear changes easier through the use of a temporal control of propulsion systems when a driver changes gear); Devices that allow a driver to adjust shock absorbers and suspension springs from the driver's seat when the car is in motion
- Telemetry
- Throttle control systems of which the control method is not a direct mechanical linkage between the throttle pedal and engine are all prohibited.

SuperGT cars makes F1 cars looks like a space shuttle. I for one have attended JGTC races 4 times since 2000. The only time I missed it was because of the SARS scare when it was cancelled. If offers a way better entertaiment value than most F1 races. On track or off track.

READ THIS

BULLSHIT!

I too saw that "prohibited" list before, surprised at first only to find out that its bullshit. Really, go reserch it a bit. I dunno what they do, but I clearly remeber reading that every fuckig thing imaginable is allowed on all four corners.

FYI even FIA GT "Prohibits" all electronic aids, but the teams still manage to slip in levels of TC etc that the governing body just cant monitor.

Oh and I guess they dont run sequential boxes either right? Squarly contradicting one of the so called rules on "gear assits"

911GT1 · 01-04-2006, 04:16 AM

Well give me facts... Dont just assume. I think you're the one who's bullshitting. You pick the wrong guy to bullshit with. I'm not a complete tool when it come to JGTC and SuperGT. Borderline fanatic more like it. You have never seen or experience a JGTC race ever in you whole life.

SFDMALEX · 01-04-2006, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by 911GT1

Well give me facts... Dont just assume. I think you're the one who's bullshitting. You pick the wrong guy to bullshit with. I'm not a complete tool when it come to JGTC and SuperGT. Borderline fanatic more like it. You have never seen or experience a JGTC race ever in you whole life.

Ahh whatever mate, why dont you just fuck off with that attitude? Please and thank you.

I dont need to give you facts my friend, I know what I know, so get your own facts ok.

FYI I got my information from people who where in the process of making a JGTC physics model for a simulator and who reaserched the subject quite a bit.

Oh and you being such a "fanatic" must have heard the TC cut ins from the onboard shots.

Telemetries are prohibited? LOL, shit.....thats a good one...

Oh and no fly-by-wire throttles? hmmmm thats a hard one to beleive

:roll:

No semi auto boxes? HAHAHAHAHA So what are those sequential boxes they run? LOL! Even some are steering wheel controlled....

Take your head of your ass and stop getting high off those shit fumes my friend, and open your eyes before calling someone a bullshiter.

911GT1 · 01-04-2006, 04:35 AM

Oh, the typical behavior of the ignorants. All talk no facts. Just assumption and opinions. And you even got your info from a 3rd party... not even the ppl who directly involved with the developement of the cars.

You want pics of the dash? Here i took this one myself from last year race.

I've seen the cars... talk to some of the engineers and know the elaborate history of the superGT. While some of your claims might be true in pre 2000 cars, the fact is 2000 cars an 2005 cars are very very different animal altogether. Why do you think skylines stopped dominating JGTC?

SFDMALEX · 01-04-2006, 04:47 AM

LOL! Thank you. Thank you for just proving your self wrong.

THat sequential shifter goes against the rules you outlined.

EPS is electronic steering assistance.

That WET/Dry switch I guess is just a beacon switch of some sord

LOL that dash got more buttons then a space shuttle.

WHat with those SOFT HARD levers? Now dont tell me thats for some sord of remote suspension adjustments.

Keep owning your self buddy.

Once again watch any onboard video and just hear the TC cutting in.

SFDMALEX · 01-04-2006, 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by 911GT1

Why do you think skylines stopped dominating JGTC?

Every car has its day.

For instance 993 GT2 dominated the GT scene. Got old, got slow.

550s GT(S) class racers where a major force in the ELMS, FIAGT scene for quite some time, but they are coming near the end of their line.

Anyway that series is just a big show. The level of drivers there is just not impressive sorry. Watching those onboard shots is plain hillarious...

They still run a Macca in the series? LOL

Now dont get me started on the redicilous aero packages they run, that shit is more drag then anything else.

Put any JGCT car against an ALMS, FIA GT front running Vette/MC12/550 and they will really feel those 700bhp

911GT1 · 01-04-2006, 05:00 AM

Oh yeah telemetry? I bet those CRT TVs most have some serious telemetry equipment in it....

Oh please, you dont even know what they actually stands for. You think anybody who got TCS will be that stupid to advertise it out in the open? Everything can be adjusted by the driver... but mechanically not electronically like in F1 cars. You know how practical to do that during a race? And EPS are not prohibited.
Please... READ the rules carefully... you just owned yourself.