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deth · 12-05-2003, 08:56 PM

twboy1999 · 12-05-2003, 09:01 PM

lol
he got owneddd

is it photoshop?

deth · 12-05-2003, 09:10 PM

i really dont think so...he's done pretty stupid things ie. falling off the segway

robruf · 12-05-2003, 09:32 PM

Remember Americans, this is your leader, don'tyouwish know that Clinton was back in office, fucking his interns, instead of this guy falling off a Segway, Clinton's only fault is that he liked to fuck bigger ladies,andthey had to have a an inquest into it. It is the only place in the world where they give you all the freedom you want and then have the most strict rules about everything. Let me give you an example, you cannot even go into a liquor store in Massachusettes or Vermont without ID even if you are not buying the beer or liquor. I was 26 at the time and my younger brother was buying beer at a store and they would not let him have the beer unitl I went back out to my car and get my ID, how fucked up is that? I love travelling in the USA, the people are great, but the rules suck.

GT-R_R34 · 12-06-2003, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by robruf

but the rules suck.

tell me about it.

anyways those pics are great. Owned big time.

graywolf624 · 12-06-2003, 02:37 AM

Remember Americans, this is your leader, don'tyouwish know that Clinton was back in office, fucking his interns, instead of this guy falling off a Segway, Clinton's only fault is that he liked to fuck bigger ladies,andthey had to have a an inquest into it. It is the only place in the world where they give you all the freedom you want and then have the most strict rules about everything. Let me give you an example, you cannot even go into a liquor store in Massachusettes or Vermont without ID even if you are not buying the beer or liquor. I was 26 at the time and my younger brother was buying beer at a store and they would not let him have the beer unitl I went back out to my car and get my ID, how fucked up is that? I love travelling in the USA, the people are great, but the rules suck.

First off those pics are photoshopped. Second off, I have tryed to keep out of politics here, but your giving me little choice.

Clinton: Ok there is so much wrong with this statement it isn't even funny. Ok, he lied to a grand jury(in a case where he was being tried for sexual harassment no less. Are you telling me that if you whipped it out or were accused of so doing in front of your subordinate at work, that in the ensuing trial if you lied to the court you wouldn't go to jail? Do you not think argueing the definition of is enters the realm of slightly slimey?). He was involved in a savings and loan scandal. He wrecked the white house when he left it. He was accused of sexual assault and harassment. He used fbi files to track his opponents. He used the lincoln bedroom for financial accrument. The man was a slime, and he did 0 for this country. Effective legislation of Clinton.. 0. Thats just the ones off the top of my head, if you knew the extent of controversy surrounding the man it would make your head spin.

Bush: I think he is smarter then you give him credit for. All politicians make mistakes in speechs. Your ability as a public speaker has nothing to do with your intelligence (his actions up till this point in his administration have been fairly intelligent. He is perhaps one of the closest to middle of the road politicians we have ever had, and has one of the highest approval ratings of any president.). Furthermore, which is better? A liar like Clinton, or someone that has difficulty lieing because he is not as slick.

I won't even venture into the true political aspect. I am neither a Bush supporter or hater. That being said, Clinton did more to contribute to the moral degredation of our society then any other president. But keep believing it was just cause he is an adulter.

As for the rules thing. You can thank Clinton and the democrats for that. They felt we needed protection from the kids after columbine. Apparently good old fashion parenting isn't good enough. That being said, we still have more rights then almost any other country. We can say whatever we want about our government, Can go anywhere within our country, can own guns, don't have to get most of our hard earned money taken in taxes (it's high but we are still one of the lowest), don't have our gas taxed to death, ect.

As for my political leanings, they are exactly opposite from almost any european country so I will keep my mouth shut. Smaller federal governments is not the popular trend it once was.

*you hit the hot button. Making a joke is one thing, believing our president is an idiot and that Clinton was great was a whole other. Especially considering the recent moronic words of certain london mayors, not to mention the french. (which make this go from good natured ribbing to something a tad over the top. For those who don't know, apparently the mayor of london thinks bush is "the biggest threat to the world, possibly ever". I guess those guys hitler, Saddam, Stalin, and Osama Bin Laden are not as scary as a man who has cut taxes and brought about a war that liberated people. It is biased ignorance like this that has turned this from a good natured rib to disgusting for me.

666fast · 12-06-2003, 05:07 AM

cannot even go into a liquor store in Massachusettes or Vermont without ID even if you are not buying the beer or liquor. I was 26 at the time and my younger brother was buying beer at a store and they would not let him have the beer unitl I went back out to my car and get my ID, how fucked up is that? I

They do that everywhere in the states as far as I know. I don't know if you are aware of the penalties for selling a minor alcohol. Lets just say, they'll screw you big time. Also, liqour licenses are very expensive. A Liquor shop can't make money if it can't sell it's goods!

As for the Segway, lots of people have fallen on them. Apparently, if the battery loses power, you are going down.

As for Bush, I don't care for him. I hope he isn't elected again!

Kangaroo Boy · 12-06-2003, 06:17 AM

^^ SAME, But I hope American Government stop controlling our Government once bush is gone.Like,we don't need your Star Wars Missel base here.We where once a country that was never going to be bombed by islam extremis.Now we are a target,.Plus,Bush stuff up with the Whole War in iraq.Its place American Economy in a Financial crisis.Our dollars is worth 71 cents US but before the war our dollar was worth 59 cents US.And every day some Marine Dies in Iraq..Really,I think bush won't be back after the next election.

stracing · 12-06-2003, 06:33 AM

now its 73c. theres a possibility it'll go upto 80c pretty soon.

but now its our turn to live like kings (well sorta) in the US.

Kangaroo Boy · 12-06-2003, 06:38 AM

I hope DC shoe prices go down,I need a new pair.

stradale · 12-06-2003, 08:11 AM

I think Bush makes mistakes during a speech or deliberation a lot more often than othere politicians. There's a site with all the 'Bushisms' listed. It's http://www.politicalhumor.about.com/...shisms2002.htm. They filled so many pages with his dumb remarks...

Just a random selection.
"I think the American people — I hope the American — I don't think, let me — I hope the American people trust me." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002

"The trial lawyers are very politically powerful. … But here in Texas we took them on and got some good medical — medical malpractice." —George W. Bush, Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

"Do you have blacks, too?" —George W. Bush, to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Nov. 8, 2001, as reported in an April 28, 2002, Estado Sao Pauloan column by Fernando Pedreira, a close friend of President Cardoso

"I was proud the other day when both Republicans and Democrats stood with me in the Rose Garden to announce their support for a clear statement of purpose: you disarm, or we will." —George W. Bush, speaking about Saddam Hussein, Manchester, N.H., Oct. 5, 2002

These are just a couple out of hundreds. I also remember a great one. When speaking to Tony Blair about the economical situation in France he actually said: "The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepeneur." It must have been very difficult for Blair not to burst out laughing.

graywolf624 · 12-06-2003, 12:42 PM

".Its place American Economy in a Financial crisis"

Actualy our economy was in trouble long before the war, and is actually comming back out now. (If they are contributed to anyone they are contributed to Clinton. Economics have a lag, and our problems appeared in 2000. Thus if anyone did it that was president it was clinton. That being said, our president has little to do with the economy, so in reality you can only blame the federal reserve or life) The effects of the war, if contributing to any part of our economy, is contributing to our economic revival.

As for the bushism, search for stuff by gore, dan quail, heck even Clinton. The only reason you hear about Bush is the liberals hate him. Still yet again, public speaking has as much to do with intelligence as winning the lottery.

"up with the Whole War in iraq"
Maybe he wouldn't have if france and the rest of the UN had actually done something to help. He isn't controling your country either. No country does something because the US says, so get that rhetoric out of your head.

I really hate the ignorance that is portrayed on this subject by almost everyone(not even talking about you guys particularly, how often do I hear these lines of thinking. aka Bush caused the economic collapse(false), bush foobared iraq(false), bush is stupid(unsubstantiated), ect). So many people blame him for things that have nothing to do with him. If you want to criticize him, at least focus on what he has done. (Pass a late term abortion ban, decrease taxes, attempt to increase help for senior citizens health care including a prescriptions bill similar to you europeans socialist health care(of the previous the one I am most against), ignore the UN to go into Iraq, pass the patriot act(unknown how much it really takes our rights away), ect). Quit focusing on complete bs and learn the facts before you develop an opinion.

Kangaroo Boy · 12-06-2003, 01:17 PM

Well its the second Time that America Tried to Liberated iraq.And the second time isn't going as good as George Bush Jr and his party expected it to go.How can the Iraqi people Trust America after the Gulf war.
Nope,he is black mailing our country,its a simple fact that John Howard is a Puppet of the American Goverment..Its either,Do you surpport Terrorism?.IF so,your counted as a threat to the USA and that you surpport Terrorism and harvest extremis.IF you don't surpport Terrorism,Therefore you have to fight against it and get rid of it.If you don't your surpporting Terrorism.
The UN,George Bush has broken International Law.Gone to war without surpport of UN Approval.
More Americans are starting to loose Faith with this war.
You guys live next Door to Canada and Mexico.Australia Next Door Neighbours is Idonesia,The worlds biggest population of Muslim.So far,Australia has pissed them off big time,It won't be long someone gets in the country and tries to blow something big up.Where will George Bush and his party be when that happends?

graywolf624 · 12-06-2003, 01:26 PM

Well its the second Time that America Tried to Liberated iraq.And the second time isn't going as good as George Bush Jr and his party expected it to go.How can the Iraqi people Trust America after the Gulf war.
Nope,he is black mailing our country,its a simple fact that John Howard is a Puppet of the American Goverment..Its either,Do you surpport Terrorism?.IF so,your counted as a threat to the USA and that you surpport Terrorism and harvest extremis.IF you don't surpport Terrorism,Therefore you have to fight against it and get rid of it.If you don't your surpporting Terrorism.
The UN,George Bush has broken International Law.Gone to war without surpport of UN Approval.
More Americans are starting to loose Faith with this war.
You guys live next Door to Canada and Mexico.Australia Next Door Neighbours is Idonesia,The worlds biggest population of Muslim.So far,Australia has pissed them off big time,It won't be long someone gets in the country and tries to blow something big up.Where will George Bush and his party be when that happends?

Bull crap. Did it ever cross your mind that your government might think that the war on Iraq is a good idea? That black mail thing is bs, you don't see us invading France. That arguement is simply rhetoric. Also apparently you know nothing about the gulf war. The gulf war wasnt about liberating iraq. The intention was never to overthrow saddam. It was to oust him from Kuwait. Hey look, they did that and then they finnished. So horrible, this time they go to over throw saddam and they do. This time they liberate the Iraqi people, yet another good thing.

The UN, all I have to do is laugh. They wouldn't go to war if they were being attacked. (see france, Germany has to invade them before they go to war. ) They are a worthless organization and wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the US. They set rules and then don't enforce them. I have no problem telling them to stuff it.

But apparently our allies were with us because we black mailed them. Sure.. thats believable. So far all you've said is rhetoric. That your people would be unhappy if you didnt combat terrorism. Oh wow, so basically your people believe that iraq was a terroristic threat. Is that Americas fault, hells no.

Take responsibility for your own countries actions! I'm sick and tired of the worlds recent inclination to blame someone else(on the country and personal level). You are there because your government agrees. Take it up with them, not the US.

Please people, at least research before you make claims. Saying that the gulf war had anything to do with outsting saddam or the Iraqi people is just plain uninformed.

"More Americans are starting to loose Faith with this war. "

And your basis for such a comment comes from where? Certainly not polls, which have Bush with a better approval rating then the last 4 presidents. Also certainly not public opinion, unless you watch the liberal anti bush media. The middle of the road groups almost entirely support him. That is the liberals biggest problem, they are scared because for the first time Bush has their supporters backing him.

As for if bombers hit Australia, I bet the US would be by your side to help with aide. Who spends the most on foreign aide? I'll give you a hint... U...S...

TT · 12-06-2003, 01:40 PM

The UN, all I have to do is laugh. They wouldn't go to war if they were being attacked

Hehe, you can laugh at it as much as you want, but if only all the nations of the world would think like that, the world would be a better place

I'd like to argument a little more since I live in a "neutral" country and for sure we see things under a different perspective, but my english is really not up to the task... I don't know if the last intervention in IRAQ is good or bad or whatever.. sure Saddam was not really a nice guy, aka known as asshole, but when I see so many iraqui ppl pissed off beucause they love Saddam and they don't want help from outside all their shit.. well... I wonder if it will be really worth the time... I know many also want peace and democraty, but still there is to much ignorance there IMO (and I hope not to offend anybody)... many of them just need a strong hand guiding them and they don't give a fuck about democracy... NOBODY will every start such a big and bloody ordeal just to liberate ppl that keeps throwing shit at you at your God and so on... of course if the idea of controlling the zone (and the petrol in it, we can't deny it) is appealing enough to justify the effort. I'm curious to see what will be the situation in Iraq in 5 years...

That said, I'm not sure all the fault is on Bush shoulders... it's not up to a single man to start a war these days (luckily). And I'll stop here because speaking of Clinton compared to Bush I could say at least he was a nice and funny person

and everybody will remember him when he was unable to stop laughing like a dumbass in several occasions

.. I know a president is not a clown, but he is a cool guy IMO...