^^^ i think thats a wrong attitude.personally i dont think civics sound to bad,neither do integras even the s2000,they all sound the same.its when people just buy a HUGE exhaust and thats it,everythin else goes to exterior mods.therefore they get the title "all show no go" just sound and it isnt goin anywere,Boltz civic on the other hand is the opposite,he putas his foot down he is gonna move,maybe spinning the wheels for a few seconds,lol but he is gonna move.therefore he can back up the noise