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Originally Posted by graywolf624
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To me tough is get hit and keep standing, cause if you are on the ground knocked out or phased I can do just about anything...
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The problem with that arguement.. Youd be stupid to fight against someones strength.. That isn't tough, thats stupid. You use your advantages.. And tough in the end is the guy that wins, not the guy who can take punches while standing up.
6 mins on a wrestling mat would change your mind.. If you lasted 20 secs Id be amazed to be honest. Anyone who has ever done it will tell you that wrestling is easily the most intense phsical per short amount of time. Thats part of being tough. Theyd also tell you, depending on the style, some of the moves down right hurt. Punch in the head fine.. but how about I twist your ass into a pretzel so your arm almost breaks after throwing you and landing on you. If you arent in some sort of pain at that point you dont have nerve endings.
The simple fact is.. The wrestler knows how to do basic defense against a boxer.. The boxer does not know how to do basic defense against the wrestler. That means the wrestler has an edge. If hes smart, exploits it, and the boxer misses the first punch.. its over.. Once on the ground the boxer wont be able to use his fists, which means hes defenseless. |
You are completly wrong to assume that a heavyweight champ is somehow less strong then an elite wrestler.
I never took anything away from wrestling, which I think is an awesome sport, which I wish I could one day train in.
MMA is just that MMA. We see MMA fights yet we see how many fights either end on the ground or standup. How wrestler loose to boxers and the other way around. This is just pure fighting with anything allowed, and the outcomes are always different.
A standup fighters gets taken to the ground and looses, or a standup fighters lands a few punches and throws the wrestler competly off his game plan.
Do I even need to mention how many times a wrester has unsuccseful take downs? Were a boxer is open to throw a hook in either direction to end the fight?
I think you are trying to proove that wrestling is this ultimate martial art which beats all others. But countless times you will be proven wrong in leagues like Pride and UFC, were its not the art, but a number of other factors which deterimine the outcome of the fight.