Originally Posted by dutchmasterflex
Yes.. I am fully aware there is a market for that, but what Cadi is trying to do is compete with Audi, Benz and BMW for high performance luxury cruisers.
And anyway, people are taking these 'Ring laptimes way to seriously, and manufacturers are taking advantage of that by using it as a marketing scheme. GT-R becomes the fastest production car, CTS-V becoems the fastest 4 door.. it's all bull shit, and you guys are eating it up.
To break the 8 minute laptime by 1 second on a 14 mile track with an infinite amount of other variables isn't exactly a tribute to the car. It mostly depends on the driver (I don't think anyone who has driven the 'Ring has completed a lap with out admitting to at least 1 mistake, and if you claim you don't you've got to be kidding yourself, pro or not.)
GM is no better than Nissan. They're all corporate car manufactures trying to make a buck.
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your argument appears to stem from you accusing us of plutocracy. Specifically that the V has the aids we seem to hate on the GTR for. But. This is a very different scenario between each car.
the GTR has every aid known to man; many of which take away from the driving experience...
Electronic rear, and center diff
No driver involvement
DSG dual clutch system
No driver involvement
launch control - seems to not work well with timing lights according to Tony Swan... as the GTR chooses when to launch
no driver involvement
stability control
no driver involvement ( likely can be turned off, or down like MB cars)
"overboost" (speculative... no way will 520 hp + 3800 lbs trap 120 mph)
No driver involvement "stacking the deck" so to speak
Suspension management?? (unknown, as I don't remember)
Dynamics at one with the chassis; driver unaffected, except for a nicer ride when going out on a sunday cruise.
meaning.... the car delivers torque, and braking as it sees fit to be at the limit of grip
How does this differ from say... a F430 with many of these fancy features
1. Race mode, the car is still a full 1 second faster a lap with them off...
How does this differ from the CTS V
Suspension management
same as GTR
Stability control
Able to be fully turned off, with driver being able to lap faster around any said track (given the driver is good)