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Originally Posted by tforth
No, obviously, as I've mentioned before, track tires do count, on any track. That being said, I don't think they'll make up for 10+s I have estimated will separate the 997 GT2 from the Z06 on the NS.
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On a 4 mile track tires can equal 10s.. on a 13mile track tyres not only equal 10s, they can surpace it.
This is "perfromance car 101" and shouldn't even need to be debated.
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Originally Posted by tforth
The simple point that I'm trying to get across here, is that sport 911s (GT3/RS/GT2, etc.), even with their inherently poor polar moment of inertia layout handicap (i.e. rear engine), generally have better NS laptimes than the 'vaunted' Z06, when considering power/weight ratios.
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Ok - instead of just trying your level best to bash the 'vaunted' Z06 - as you put it - why not try base you opinions on facts.
The Corvette does not have the decades of Northloop testing the 911 has... and why is it that you refuse to accept the 996 GT3 and the C5 Z06 have similar lap times?
Older RS variants are very much "limited street intended use" cars.. in fact this is even true for the 997 RS variants.
There is no "stripped" Corvette - you keep making this apples to oranges comparison - The 911T of each generation is the Zo6 equivelent - it is the fully street option variant of the hi-po 911.
The GT2 is quite obviously as reflected by the price, the 911 will all the trimmings and noexpenses spared.
You also clearly want to compare across generation gaps.
The point that
you seem so determined to ignore it that for each generation of the Corvette going back to 1955, it has been able to natch the performance of sports cars of the same class each time - this seems to be something people refuse to accept.
And when you take the 2001~2004 and 2006~ model years the Z06 of the the day has matched toe to toe equivalent street cars - period.
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Originally Posted by tforth
And, don't fool yourself, GM has been spending lots of time on the NS developing their products recently.
Furthermore, the GT3 has no less relevant creature comforts (997 version) than the Z06. Remember, even in its 'stripped out' format, it still has as many seats the corvette. The 997 GT3 even has sat-nav!
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GM has only been spending the last 4 years or so in serious Northloop testing.
Until I make a close study of the 997GT3 RS's coming to Houston, I will reserve judgement, but previous RS's have been quite more track car than street car.. and I would also expect the 2007/8 model RS to be an improvement over the 2006 Z06 (released in 2005)... there are 2 tears in it.
Any way - I am not "defending" anything about the Z06 - I am just tired of people devoted their lives to flawed bashing.