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Old 11-07-2008, 12:01 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by nthfinity View Post
just LOL

The new one is a reflection of the old one in many ways. Where to begin...

1st. Shelby's autograph money goes entirely to his charity.
2nd. The GT is a ground up highly advanced chassis that makes the LP560 look ameturish (according to a lambo chassis engineer)
3rd. The GT is the most drivable supercar... perhaps ever. All with zero aids. Engineering marvel by itself
4th It's faster than the Ferrari/ lambo / porsche of it's time/competitors.
5th The car is racing in ALMS GT2 without factory support better than the other cars w/out such support. A large part of the issue there is drivers
6th the GT3 version of the car is a VERY winning car.(w/out factory support) Pedegree is right there.
The GT is still a very desirable car; even with nearly 4000 produced (read, fewer than F430, or Gallardo) and is faster than anything produced at the time in terms of accel, and top speed.
7th, modifications haven't taken away any value of these cars. Nor much reliability!
8th - it wasn't Jay Mays team that built the GT. It was John Colletti, with Chris Theodore/ , Kip Ewing, Camilo Pardo, Jamal Hameedi, and others....
1. Please take a look at the financials for Shelby's "charity". Lessthan 5% has been given to children. Haven't you noticed that even Barrett-Jackson and Ford Motor Company have stopped donations to his charity at the B-J auctions?

2. When Shelby was building 427 Cobras, he ordered 100 chassis from AC Cars to build competition models. The sold slowly and many were given minimal street equipment so the could be sold to regular customers. These were the now iconic 427 S?Cs. The 1009 car run was never completed.

In the early 1990s, Shelby claimed he found the "remaining" unfinnished original 43 chassis from that 100 car run in his Gardena, California warehouse. He was coing to complete them as 1965 models because they were the oriuginal chassis. He signed affidavites with the California DMV claimi8ng he has lost the oiriginal titles and requested duplicates. Finishing the cars as 1965s would have exempted them from modern safety and smog requirements.

He started taking orders at $500,000. the LA times found out that the 43 chassis were built by Cobra restorer Mike McCluskey in Torrance, California. AC Cars sued Shelby - they never built or delivered those 43 chassis back in 1965. The California DMV investigated Shelby for falsifying those 43 applications for replacement titles.

As far as I know, Carroll Shelby is the only car manufacturer that's been accused of counterfieting his own cars.


Yeah, he's a swell guy!

3. J Mays is VP of Global design at Ford. He brought his "retro futurism" to Ford after being credited for the Audi TT and Volkswagen New Beetle. He's in charge, just like Harley Earl was at GM.

4. There is no comparison between Shelby's racing history and the Ford GT's. You're nuts, or maybe just to young to know bette.r

5. It took way longer than 15 years for Shelby Cobras to be anything more than used cars.

7. I've driven Ford GTs, including the one in my photo and three original 427 Cobras (one of them was one of the cars used in the movie The Gumball Rally). The Ford GT will never become 20% as collectible as a Shelby Cobra.

Forget the pedigree and history. drive both and you'll instantly realize why the GT won't sell for $1,000,000 in 15 years.




One more time. These are collectibles:





This is a used car:



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