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Old 02-23-2008, 01:39 PM   #12
RC45
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Originally Posted by madpony View Post
GT-R's are like Lancers they're fast because they sort out the balance and traction for you that doesn't really take away from the accomplishments they make it's just a different approach than say the NSX-R or other chassis dependant cars. Also, GT-R's have been known to do their best laps early since r33 days so nothing new there. It's a good time attack car but you're really going to have to upgrade tires and brakes if you want to throw that much weight through the corners for any extended period of time. And yes Porsches are all stress tested for ultimate performance right out of the box they are art with wheels, the GT-R is a technological marvel but lacks the soul of European supercars or American muscle.
This guy should get a promotion and pay raise on Monday - he gets it

Originally Posted by fordgt84 View Post
^ a poser's car?!!
Yes - the car weighs 4000lbs - it has amazing performance (in as yet unknown doses - as in, how many laps can its tyres, brakes and cooling keep up the punishment in stock form ) but this amazing performance is only possible because the human driver is not allowed to be in charge of anything except the steering wheel (and sometimes the shifter).

This is the same reason the Veyron is a "posers" car - the ultimate "posers" car, bu tnone the less, its just another lab-coat excercise that can only be used in small controlled doses

Originally Posted by fordgt84 View Post
you're telling us corvettes and porsches aren't poser's cars?...
No - Iam telling you that ZR-1's (C4), ZR1's (C6), Z06's, GT3's, GT2's, CS' and CSL's are not posers cars... they are drivers cars.

C4, C5 and C6 Corvette Coupes, regular 911's (and even 911Turbos), 360's, 430's and M3's are posers cars... they are soft, comfy and squishy, focus on pampering their drivers like some soiled teenage cheerleader

Originally Posted by fordgt84 View Post
- they you're telling us that the reason every single person that buys a corvette or 911 is because they want to feel the way the road vibrates their way up their buttocks and spine, and that they want to feel "connected" with a pure driving machine...and that deep inside not one of them thinks "i can't wait to be seen driving this"... say no, plz say no i can't let this one slide
See above - you may be of the "I can't wait to be seen driving this" ilk, but many of us enthusiasts are not.

The folks who want to "be seen" in a car, are more likely to not want to be sweaty and wearing a wrinkled shirt when they "arrive" at StarBucks.

So - what's to "let slide"?
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