^ you seem to be correct. I read a great article of a RECENT comparison between those two and the bel...
http://www.laserveil.com/en/ultimate.../introduction/
that review, plus your guys oppinion plus... this VIDEO
http://www.laserjammer.citymax.com/f...50_stealth.wmv (if direct link does not work go to the link below and save target as "Valentine V1.8 & 8500 X50 vs Stealth mode")
taken from (more vids of other radar detectors)
http://www.jammertest.com/