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kteo2003 02-16-2004 04:50 AM

Are you happy with the "new" F1
 
the last years we all see that F1 has become a little bit borring....in fact there are some tmes that i am getting asleep.it is my opinion that FIA should consider of making some changes to benefit the spectators...i would suggest
1.slick tyres
2.rear wing same for all cars
3destroy all electronics(if that could be possible)
4.increase the length of the car
any other suggestions?????? :idea:

cho_888 02-16-2004 05:00 AM

mm, a lot of these things are in place for safty reasons so that if the car has a crash the strength of the materials can hold up to teh punishment. Yes it is not as good as it once was, but we no longer *touch wood have F1 deaths commonly.

kteo2003 02-16-2004 05:16 AM

i think you are right for the safety but i also think that F1 is not only safety but also the excitement that can give to those who drive and those who watch...anyway when you are going with more than 100mph in a corner none of the electronic traction control or the electronic gear box can provide such thing as safety...the only thing that is safety is the "cabin" and how much pressure can takes...anyway leave the electronics.but the slicks????????i think that we all want to see more passes...

cho_888 02-16-2004 05:19 AM

yes i agree with teh electronics, but thats why launch control has been banned and others are on teh way. Traction controls the big one.

kteo2003 02-16-2004 05:28 AM

that stuff thoug will not give what we want..that is two cars struggling in a corner oversteering...am i right?

kteo2003 02-16-2004 05:30 AM

or two cars that they both arrive in a corner and the one driver that passes from the outside....FIA does the rules but also they let the teams to cheat...so i don't think that with banning the traction control will do much of a difference...

cho_888 02-16-2004 05:34 AM

if you have seen "the crashes that changed racing" you would get a fell for why teh rules have been changed

kteo2003 02-16-2004 05:41 AM

i've seen many documentaries but i still don't change opinion...in fact there are a lot of people also people who race that they think that F1 should change charackter.i think that they should make some little but important changes..by the way the other forms of racing such as btcc o touring why do they use slicks?i think that the cars themselves are pretty safe..see the accident os schumi 3 years ago.he went with more than 300km/h when he started to brake..

kteo2003 02-16-2004 05:42 AM

oh i forgott the accident that had alonso last year.and coulthard...no i definetely believe that they should do something.

levensnevel 02-17-2004 10:42 AM

Just to remind everybody of the 2004 FIA rules for Formula One
http://www.pitpass.com/news2/news.cfm?newsid=8630

kteo2003 02-17-2004 11:11 AM

"Each team's engines will be inspected at the beginning of the weekend, and significant parts will be 'sealed' to prevent their replacement. Basic work can be done on the engine, including the replacing of spark plugs and even clutches. However replacement of the camshaft would be deemed to be making the engine 'new' and is therefore banned."
that means there is still room fot the teams to change some parts......
"Rear wing endplates have been increased in size, as have the engine covers. Both these changes have been made to allow more space for advertisers logos."
there it is....the real spirit of the F1.....

yg60m 02-17-2004 12:07 PM

I am agree for the slicks, not for the common rear wing. I think ( and it's Prost opinion too) that they should ban automatic gearbox and maybe pit stops too so they would have to overtake if they want to win a place.
Manual gearbox constrain the driver to concentrate on downshifts (with heel and toe for this type of car) and "favours " mistakes and overtakes.
To ban the Pit stops and we wouldn't see a driver waiting for another to stop and then pushing hard to "overtake" him in the stands.

S0300182 02-17-2004 12:57 PM

Launch control should go but traction controls is a nessesity, look wat happened to alonso in the first corner of monza in qualifying he didnt have trction control on.

Game-R 02-17-2004 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yg60m
I am agree for the slicks, not for the common rear wing. I think ( and it's Prost opinion too) that they should ban automatic gearbox and maybe pit stops too so they would have to overtake if they want to win a place.
Manual gearbox constrain the driver to concentrate on downshifts (with heel and toe for this type of car) and "favours " mistakes and overtakes.
To ban the Pit stops and we wouldn't see a driver waiting for another to stop and then pushing hard to "overtake" him in the stands.

Same here for slicks. I don't think it would be a good idea to ban pit stops. The cars aren't exactly safer with additioal fuel on board for the entire race. I however agree with the pits new 100km/h speed limit. This should make pit stategy play a bigger role.
Manual gearbox!?!? :shock: You mean those types in normal street cars?? Lets not downgrade F1 to that level pls.

ae86_16v 02-17-2004 06:30 PM

I like everything as it is now with the exception of launch control, which is banned this year. I don't know, part of me likes it because you could really figure out who has the better software engineers on the team. Then again, it doesn't leave anything up to the driver except push a button.

I think the tire technology these days, it would not matter much it was it was slicks or grooved. I remember reading something a while ago saying that if we put the grooved tires on cars back in the days, they would've been even faster than with slicks.

Why should everyone use the same rear wing? Aerodynamics is such a big part of winning these days. It is almost like saying "Everyone should use the same Engine." Well, then again if you really like that you could go watch IRL, same chassis, same engines, just different drivers. If you like going around in circles that is :) .


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