GTR vs. GT3 at Bedford by evo
 

Thanks Nice vid

so they were sliding the GT3 around and whatnot but were driving clean with the GTR? what a crock of shit

That's because no magazine wants to be "the one" to show the GT-R up for what it is.. a fraud ;)

This would be like a finding out Santa Klaus is a fantasy hehe

wow, w/out the video, nobody would've known.....

I smell EVO funding conspiracy "say the GTR is better, and we will advertise a lot" ...

Journalistic integrety my ass

I didnt see much sliding other than coming out of that last corner, maybe I should look at it again...

It is rather strange that nobody (i.e. the press/mags/etc.) have really mentioned any weaknesses that the GTR (or any car, for that matter) has. Steve Sutcliffe from Autocar mentioned during the launch that the car would probably be too stiff for British roads.

Then, in their first test in Britain, where they compared it against the 997tt, he mentioned that it didn't ride as smoothly and had less steering feel than the 997tt, but then pretty much dismissed these issues; which normally would have have been the death nell for any other car being reviewed. It's almost like it is the new R8:ohmy:...

I still think that it is a great achievement, especially from Nissan, but I am getting a little tired of the way they have compared it against various 911s, stating that it makes this icon seem like a piece of crap. I find it very hard to believe that they could have got it that right, first time (i.e. excluding previous Skylines of course).

^I guess it's because when it comes to cars like that, the ride doesn't really matter. No one ever complains about how harsh the Ferrari Enzo rides on British roads, do you? ;-)

Then again, many journalists seem like they're willing to allow concessions for the GT-R. Maybe they're sick of the Germans, or they're trying to whip up a sensationalistic story for the future. "Shock: GT-R not that good as we thought!"

it's the new auto journalist favourite, just like many porsches used to be... the porsche 911 GT3 RS has a crap ride and can't handle for sh*t in the wet, but it won EVO's car of the year award 2007... i still think the GT-R is a bloody good car just as those porsches are

i can just about imagine u typing that statement with ur eyes all red with hatred never seen b4 :rofl::rofl::rofl:

must...resist...another...silly argument.... with ... RC45... there's no...point

they should compare it to GT3 RS

they should compare it to GT3 RS


oops double post, delete this

You'll be surprised, but that "sliding", e.g oversteer is simply the way Porsche goes on the limit. Remember, the engine is in the back so the back end is inert => tendency to oversteer (especially with RWD).

EVO is well known for their love for Porsches. I don't think they would favour the GTR. Looks like they actually favored the GT3 by putting a second passenger in the GTR. No one noticed? Oh, well...

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What's the point? On the track: GT3 RS >> GTR. These cars have totally different purposes. RS is a race spec track car (homologated for racing actually), base model GTR is the all around performer, everyday supercar if you want ~ suffers from excess weight severely.

^^^^^^
Whoever tought you that a 911 is fastest while oversteering isn't that smart. You NEVER set a fast lap while oversteering. The car visually corners faster before he starts sliding ;)

well I don't see a point in comparing the GT3 to GTR either, they are also very much different cars, RS is just a little bit more hardcore version. Infact I would like to see similar powered car beeing compared to GT-R.

But.... what happens when they say that the GTR is too hard for British roads, and the GT3 is not.....?