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pagani 09-07-2007 01:24 PM

Europe's quickest fwd car on the 1/4 mile 10,2@138 mph
 
Mg zr 200 is more than 800 hp+ the record 10,2@138 mph he drives to and from work everyday.
:D 8)

gis 09-07-2007 02:39 PM

800+hp FWD and he uses it as a daily driver? lol

RAMMIUS 09-07-2007 02:40 PM

Geez 800 hp thru the front wheels :roll:

Last time I checked some british editors where bitching around about ALFA`s 250 hp and torque steer :lol:

RC45 09-07-2007 03:06 PM

800hp and all it managed was 10.2 and 138mph?

Damn - FWD is slow.

saadie 09-07-2007 04:00 PM

massive understeering tyre wastage !!! :lol: :lol:

pagani 09-07-2007 04:31 PM

Here spec list for the none believers.
http://www.an-racing.com/_wp_generated/wpd2458b9c.png
Here is list of the supercars it beats on the 1/4 mile
Fwd cars can be very quick if you kown how setup them.

Vehicle Year BHP 0-30
mph 0-60
mph 0-100
mph 1/4 Mile
Seconds 1/4 Mile
mph

ANR Bubble ZR 2007 800+ 3 5.8 10.23 138
McLaren F1 1994 627 1.8 3.2 6.3 11.1 138
Porsche 911 GT1 1997 544 2.0 3.8 7.2 11.6 134
Jaguar XJ220 1992 542 3.6 7.9 11.7
Lamborghini Gallardo (New!) 2003 492 1.7 4.1 9.0 11.7 114
Pagani Zonda S 2002 555 1.8 3.7 7.4 11.8 129
ANR Maestro 2004 550+ 7.5 11.9 130
Caterham R500 2000 230 1.6 3.4 8.1 11.9 117
Lamborghini Murcielago 2001 571 1.8 4.0 9.1 12.1 116
Toyota Corolla WRC 2000 299 1.6 3.8 9.9 12.2 113
Noble M12 GTO-3R 2003 352 1.7 3.9 9.0 12.3 115
Porsche 911 Turbo 2000 414 1.4 3.9 9.4 12.3 115
Koenigsegg CC8S 2003 655 2.2 4.4 8.4 12.3 123
Ferrari 360 Modena F1 2000 400 1.8 4.2 8.8 12.3 120
TVR Cerbera 4.5 1998 420 2.1 4.1 8.9 12.4 118
Lamborghini Diablo SV 1996 530 2.0 4.3 9.0 12.4 121
Lamborghini Diablo GT 1999 569 2.1 4.4 8.7 12.4 123
Noble M12 GTO 2001 310 1.7 3.9 9.4 12.5 114
TVR Tamora 2002 350 1.9 4.2 9.1 12.5 119
Mercedes CL65 AMG Automatic (New!) 2003 603 2.1 4.4 8.9 12.5 120
Lamborghini Diablo SE 30 1995 525 4.2 12.6
Aston Martin Vantage 600 1998 600 4.3 9.3 12.6 120
Dodge Viper Venom 550 1995 550 4.4 9.7 12.6
Porsche 911 GT3 2003 375 1.7 4.5 9.3 12.6 115
Lotus Esprit V8 GT 1998 349 4.1 9.5 12.7
Marcos Mantis Supercharged 1998 450 1.9 4.4 10.0 12.7 112
Porsche 911 GT2 2001 457 1.5 3.9 8.3 12.8 127
TVR Tuscan Speed Six 2000 360 2.0 4.2 9.5 12.8 116
TVR Griffith 500 1993 340 4.2 12.8
Bugatti EB110 GT 1994 553 4.5 12.8
TVR Tuscan S 2001 390 1.9 3.9 8.9 12.9 118
Westfield FW400 1999 190 2.1 4.5 10.3 12.9 112
Porsche 911 Carrera 2001 315 1.6 4.6 10.1 12.9 112
Ferrari 550 Maranello 1996 479 2.0 4.6 10.1 12.9 114
Aston Martin Vantage 1993 550 4.6 12.9
Ferrari 512M 1995 440 4.8 10.2 12.9
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII Extreme 2001 339 1.4 4.2 11.0 13.0 108
TVR Cerbera Speed Six 1999 350 2.0 4.5 10.2 13.0 113
Mercedes E55 AMG Automatic 2002 469 2.1 4.6 10.4 13.0 114
Ferrari F355 1994 380 4.6 13.0
Porsche 911 Carrera 1997 296 1.8 4.6 10.5 13.0 112
BMW M5 1999 400 2.1 4.6 10.6 13.0 111
Mercedes C32 AMG Automatic 2001 349 1.9 4.6 10.8 13.0 107
Ferrari F355 1994 380 4.6 13.0
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 1999 349 2.1 4.7 10.7 13.0 109
Chevrolet Corvette 2000 345 2.0 4.7 13.0 109
Caterham 21 VHPD 1997 190 1.8 4.5 11.1 13.1 107
Dodge Viper 1993 400 4.6 10.7 13.1
Ferrari F355 F1 Berlinetta 1997 380 2.1 4.7 10.8 13.1 111
BMW Z8 2000 400 1.9 4.7 11.0 13.1 110
Nissan Skyline R34 GTR 1999 277 1.8 4.6 10.8 13.2 111
Audi RS4 2000 380 1.7 4.7 11.2 13.2 108
TVR Griffith 500 1992 280 4.7 13.2
Porsche 911 GT3 1999 360 1.8 4.8 10.9 13.2 109
BMW M3 CSL 2003 360 2.0 4.8 10.9 13.2 110
Callaway Corvette Twin Turbo 1987 347 4.8 11.4 13.2 109
Pontiac Firebird Formula 2000 320 2.1 5.0 13.2 108
Ferrari 512TR 1992 428 5.0 13.2
Aston Martin Vanquish 2001 460 2.0 4.4 10.5 13.3 115
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI GSR 1999 276 1.8 4.4 11.2 13.3 108
Subaru Impreza WRX STi 1998 280 1.5 4.6 12.3 13.3 104
Dodge Viper Venom 600 1997 635 4.8 9.9 13.3 119
Mercedes SL55 AMG Automatic 2002 500 4.8 11.2 13.3 110
Porsche 911 Carrera 4 1998 296 1.8 4.8 11.8 13.3 107
AMG Mercedes 560E Auto 1987 360 1.5 5.0 12.6 13.3
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo V 1998 276 1.7 4.7 12.3 13.4 105
Lotus Esprit S4 S 1995 285 4.7 13.4
BMW E46 M3 2001 343 2.0 4.8 11.5 13.4 107
Maserati Coupe 2002 385 2.2 4.9 11.3 13.4 109
Mitsubishi 3000 GT 2000 320 1.7 5.0 13.4 102
Porsche 911 Turbo 1987 2.2 5.3 12.3 13.4
Chevrolet Camaro SS 2000 320 2.3 5.3 13.4 106
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI Extreme 1999 350 1.6 4.0 10.6 13.5 107
Bentley Continental GT (New!) 2003 552 1.9 4.9 11.8 13.5 107
GMC Syclone 1992 330 1.7 4.6 13.7 13.5 99
Marcos LM500 1995 320 4.6 13.5
Morgan Aero 8 2001 286 2.0 4.8 11.7 13.5 105
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII 2003 276 1.6 4.8 12.7 13.5 103
Audi RS2 1994 315 1.5 4.8 13.5
BMW M Coupe 1998 321 1.9 4.9 11.7 13.5 106
Lotus Carlton 1990 377 2.4 5.1 11.1 13.5 111
Ferrari 456 GT 1994 442 5.1 11.6 13.5
Ford Mustang Cobra 2000 320 2.3 5.4 13.5 103
Lotus Esprit GT3 1996 240 1.8 4.8 12.5 13.6 103
Vauxhall VX220T 2003 197 1.8 4.9 12.6 13.6 103
Porsche 911 Cabriolet 1994 272 5.0 13.6
BMW Alpina B10 Switchtronic 1999 347 2.0 5.0 11.9 13.6 105
BMW M Roadster 1997 321 2.1 5.1 12.0 13.6 106
Lamborghini Diablo VT 1994 492 5.1 13.6
Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Volante 2000 420 5.2 11.8 13.6 107
Aston Martin DB7 Vantage 1999 420 2.3 5.2 11.9 13.6 107
Audi S4 Avant 2003 1.7 5.2 13.3 13.6 103
Chevrolet Corvette Cabrio 1998 339 5.3 11.5 13.6 110
Lotus 340R 2000 177 1.7 4.6 12.5 13.7 106
BMW M Roadster 2001 325 2.1 4.8 10.9 13.7 106
Buick GNX 346 4.8 11.7 13.7 107
Subaru Impreza STi 2002 261 1.7 4.9 13.5 13.7 101
Subaru Impreza 22B 1998 276 1.7 5.0 13.0 13.7 102
Nissan Skyline R33 GTR 1997 277 1.9 5.0 13.0 13.7 102
Rocket 1992 143 5.0 13.7
Toyota Supra 1993 326 5.1 13.2 13.7
Marcos Mantis 1997 352 2.0 5.2 12.5 13.7 105
Dodge Viper GTS 1997 378 2.3 5.3 11.9 13.7 108
Maybach 62 Automatic (New!) 2003 543 2.2 5.3 12.3 13.7 106
Ferrari Daytona 365 GTB/4 1971 352 2.5 5.4 12.6 13.7 104
Aston Martin V8 Vantage 1978 375 2.2 5.4 13.0 13.7 102
Mercedes SLK 32 AMG Automatic 2001 349 2.1 4.9 11.2 13.8 106
TVR Chimaera 4.5 1997 285 2.0 5.1 13.1 13.8 103
TVR Chimaera 4.0 1993 240 5.2 13.8
Porsche 911 Carrera 1993 272 5.2 13.8
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1998 305 5.2 13.8 104
BMW E36 M3 Evo 1998 321 2.3 5.3 12.2 13.8 107
Jaguar XJR Auto 1997 370 2.1 5.3 12.8 13.8 102
Honda NSX 1994 270 5.3 13.9 13.8 101
Subaru Impreza P1 2000 277 1.6 4.7 12.3 13.9 105
BMW E36 M3 Evo SMG 1998 321 1.9 5.3 12.9 13.9 104
Mercedes E55 AMG 1998 354 2.3 5.3 13.0 13.9 104
Porsche 911 Targa 1995 285 5.3 13.9
Porsche Cayenne Turbo Automatic 2003 444 2.1 5.4 12.9 13.9 104
BMW E36 M3 1993 286 5.4 13.1 13.9
AC Cobra 289 1966 300 5.5 14.0 13.9 99
Daimler Super 8 Automatic 1999 370 5.4 13.0 14.0 104
Jaguar XKR SVO Automatic 1999 370 2.2 5.4 13.3 14.0 103
Lotus Exige 2000 190 5.4 13.7 14.0 101
BMW M5 1994 340 5.4 13.6 14.0
Lamborghini Countach 1982 375 2.4 5.6 12.9 14.0 105
Plymouth Barracuda 440 1969 5.6 14.0 103
GMC Typhoon 1992 330 5.3 14.1 95
Ginetta G33 1992 198 5.3 14.1
Lotus Esprit Turbo HC 1987 215 1.9 5.4 14.9 14.1
Porsche 928 GTS 1992 350 5.4 14.1
Jaguar S-Type R Automatic 2002 395 2.1 5.5 12.6 14.1 103
Porsche 911 Tiptronic Cabrio 2000 296 2.2 5.6 12.8 14.1 103
BMW Alpina B12 Switchtronic 1999 430 5.6 13.8 14.1 103
Chevrolet Corvette Auto 1997 339 2.6 5.7 13.1 14.1 104
Nissan 350Z 2003 276 2.4 5.8 14.2 14.1 100
Lotus Elise 111S 2002 156 1.9 5.0 14.5 14.2 100
Nissan Silvia Spec R 1999 247 5.5 14.2 14.2 100
Subaru Impreza Turbo 1998 208 1.8 5.5 15.8 14.2 87
Lotus Elise 111S 1999 143 2.1 5.6 14.8 14.2 99
Maserati Ghibli 1994 280 5.6 14.2
BMW Alpina B10 1997 340 2.4 5.7 13.8 14.2 102
Ferrari Testarossa 1987 5.8 12.7 14.2
Honda NSX 1990 270 2.3 5.8 13.7 14.2 102
Caterham Seven VVC 1998 150 2.0 5.3 15.5 14.3 95
Marcos Mantaray 1998 250 2.5 5.4 14.5 14.3 100
Audi S4 1998 265 1.9 5.5 14.8 14.3 99
Subaru Impreza WRX 5 door 2003 222 1.9 5.5 16.1 14.3 95
Maserati Ghibli Cup 1997 330 2.3 5.6 13.4 14.3 103
Honda S2000 1999 237 2.2 5.6 14.3 14.3 100
Aston Martin DB7 1994 335 5.8 14.4 14.3
Porsche Boxster S 1999 252 2.2 6.0 14.4 14.3 99
Lotus Elise 1996 118 5.5 17.4 14.4
Subaru Impreza WR Prodrive 1998 240 2.0 5.6 13.9 14.4 96
Holden HSV GTS 1999 335 2.5 5.7 13.8 14.4 102
BMW E36 M3 Convertible 1994 286 5.7 14.4
Mercedes SL500 Automatic 2001 310 2.3 5.8 14.5 14.4 99
Ford F-150 Lightning 1999 360 2.2
Mercedes 500SL Automatic 1989 326 2.3 5.9 14.0 14.4 102
Volkswagen Phaeton W12 Automatic 2003 414 2.2 5.9 14.8 14.4 99
Ferrari 348 GTS 1994 320 5.9 14.4
Subaru Legacy RSK-B4 1999 272 5.9 15.9 14.4 96
Audi Coupe S2 1994 230 5.7 14.5
Caterham 7 1700SS 1987 133 2.2 5.6 18.6 14.5
Jaguar XJR 1994 321 5.7 15.1 14.5
Subaru Impreza Turbo WRX 2000 215 2.0 5.7 16.9 14.5 95
Mitsubishi 3000GT 1992 281 5.8 16.1 14.5
Marcos 2.0 GTS Spyder 1998 197 2.2 5.9 14.9 14.5 98
Noble M10 V6 1999 168 2.0 5.9 16.9 14.5 95
Morgan Plus 8 4.6 1997 220 2.2 6.0 15.3 14.5 97
Audi S8 1997 340 2.2 6.0 14.6 14.5
Mercedes CL500 Auto 2000 306 2.5 6.0 15.0 14.5 99
Audi 80 S2 Estate 1993 230 6.2 14.5
Lamborghini Miura 1970 370 2.7 6.7 15.1 14.5 97
Lotus Elise 2001 120 2.0 5.8 17.6 14.6 93
Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo 1996 220 2.5 6.0 14.5 14.6 100
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 2003 250 2.5 6.1 15.0 14.6 99
Rolls Royce Phantom Automatic 2003 453 2.5 6.0 14.7 14.6 99
Renault Clio V6 2003 255 2.2 6.0 15.8 14.6 96
Caterham 7 K-Series 6sp 1993 130 6.0 14.6
Mazda RX-7 1992 237 6.0 14.6
:D 8)

pagani 09-07-2007 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Sorry but 800hp on a FWD hatch is a joke... :lol: :lol:

No it's not.
:lol: :lol:

pagani 09-07-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45
800hp and all it managed was 10.2 and 138mph?

Damn - FWD is slow.

That is quick for a road car period.
This will do a 9 second pass in the future.
:D

pagani 09-07-2007 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saadie
massive understeering tyre wastage !!! :lol: :lol:

I will kick your ass on a straight road.
:D 8) :lol:

pagani 09-07-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAMMIUS
Geez 800 hp thru the front wheels :roll:

Last time I checked some british editors where bitching around about ALFA`s 250 hp and torque steer :lol:

Believe this is not jeremy clarkson's car he would shit his pants this is the demo car of well kown rover tuner/enginer builder in the uk.
8)

RC45 09-07-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
Here spec list for the none believers.
http://www.an-racing.com/_wp_generated/wpd2458b9c.png
Here is list of the supercars it beats on the 1/4 mile
Fwd cars can be very quick if you kown how setup them.

WTF? Are you high on cheap dutch weed? :) :?:

The car is a DEDICATED DRAG RACE CAR - Period. One might expect it to beat bone stock or slightly tuned street cars.

Who cares about the specs.. for a DEDICATED DRAG RACE CAR with 800hp it is CRAP SLOW. It has no interior, almost no exterior, is set up 110% dedicated to 1/4 mile.

And after all that - only 10.2s @ 138mph? And doesnt it need nitrous for these numbers?

FFS - my street car will do close to that with 650bhp.

pagani 09-07-2007 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
Here spec list for the none believers.
http://www.an-racing.com/_wp_generated/wpd2458b9c.png
Here is list of the supercars it beats on the 1/4 mile
Fwd cars can be very quick if you kown how setup them.

WTF? Are you high on cheap dutch weed? :) :?:

The car is a DEDICATED DRAG RACE CAR - Period. One might expect it to beat bone stock or slightly tuned street cars.

Who cares about the specs.. for a DEDICATED DRAG RACE CAR with 800hp it is CRAP SLOW. It has no interior, almost no exterior, is set up 110% dedicated to 1/4 mile.

And after all that - only 10.2s @ 138mph? And doesnt it need nitrous for these numbers?

FFS - my street car will do close to that with 650bhp.

This wil do 9's whit little work on the suspension and stripping some weight of it. It's race car and street car in one.
Who cares about interior i don't.
I has little bit of nitrous only 75 shot.
This is about as fast as a bugatti veyron on the strip that is impressive.
You said your self your will never dragrace your car.
Btw the list with all performance is just something to show how quick this car is
:D 8)

RC45 09-07-2007 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
This wil do 9's whit little work on the suspension and stripping some weight of it.

WTF? Less weight?

Again - car swith MUCH less HP run quicker than 10.2s @ 138mph in the 1/4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
It's race car and street car in one.

Bullshit. Thatis not a street car, it is a racing car that gets driven on the street. Period. Don't kid yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
Who cares about interior i don't.
I has little bit of nitrous only 75 shot.

It has no interior because it is a race car. :)

Nitrous is nitrous.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
This is about as fast as a bugatti veyron on the strip that is impressive.

N - for what it is it is not impressive ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
You said your self your will never dragrace your car.

Only because I have no interest in going to the drag strip at this time - butif I was willing to risk trashing a clutch or blowing a halfshaft on a 6000rpm launch my car will run those speeds.

And there are thousand sof Mustangs and Camaros that would blow that dedicated race car into the weeds ;)

That may be ipressive for Europe, but other than only having 4 cylinders - it snot that impressive ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
Btw the list with all performance is just something to show how quick this car is
:D 8)

But it is not that quick. :)

pagani 09-07-2007 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
This wil do 9's whit little work on the suspension and stripping some weight of it.

WTF? Less weight?
Yes i order to you fasy you need to strip weight

Again - car swith MUCH less HP run quicker than 10.2s @ 138mph in the 1/4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
It's race car and street car in one.

Bullshit. Thatis not a street car, it is a racing car that gets driven on the street. Period. Don't kid yourself.
It's street legal mot and taxed a road is a road.
And i my eyes a race car is car that ís not street legal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
Who cares about interior i don't.
I has little bit of nitrous only 75 shot.

It has no interior because it is a race car. :)
It's a stripped out roadcar

Nitrous is nitrous.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
This is about as fast as a bugatti veyron on the strip that is impressive.

N - for what it is it is not impressive ;)
It's very impressive if you live in europe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
You said your self your will never dragrace your car.

Only because I have no interest in going to the drag strip at this time - butif I was willing to risk trashing a clutch or blowing a halfshaft on a 6000rpm launch my car will run those speeds.


And there are thousand sof Mustangs and Camaros that would blow that dedicated race car into the weeds ;)
How can compared fourbanger to a v8

That may be ipressive for Europe, but other than only having 4 cylinders - it snot that impressive ;)
It's still impressive

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagani
Btw the list with all performance is just something to show how quick this car is
:D 8)

But it is not that quick. :)

It's destroy's all the car on the list on accleration and 1/4 mile.
That is quick car to me.
:D 8) :twisted:

5vz-fe 09-07-2007 06:34 PM

Seriously, you gotta stop acting like a fool pagani.

One could call wheels on a bathtub daily driver.....but not the rest of the world.
2L and 800hp always = Big Turbo --> LAG


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