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nthfinity 05-31-2006 11:27 AM

Toyota reliability for you :)
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13046349/
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Updated: 4:04 p.m. ET May 30, 2006
WASHINGTON - Toyota Motor Corp. said Tuesday it is recalling nearly 1 million vehicles across the globe to replace faulty parts that could cause drivers to lose control of the steering wheel.

The recall affects about 986,000 vehicles across 10 models, including its popular Prius hybrid car. More than half of the affected vehicles are in Japan, company officials said.

The intermediate shafts and sliding yokes in the recalled cars lack the necessary strength and could distort or crack under strong pressure, causing drivers to lose control of the steering wheel, the Japanese automaker said in a statement.

In the United States, Toyota is recalling about 170,000 Prius models because the steering shaft assembly could become loose or crack under certain conditions.

Toyota said there have been no reported crashes or injuries connected to the problem in the U.S. Owners are expected to be notified of the recall in mid-June.

In Japan, the recall involves a total of 565,756 vehicles manufactured under the Wish, Isis, Prius, Corolla, Corolla Runx, Corolla Fielder, Corolla Spacio, Allex and Ractis brands between September 2002 and November 2005, according to the statement.

The number in Japan included more than 300,000 Wish cars and more than 113,000 Prius cars.

Toyota spokesman Bill Kwong said the recall involves about 240,000 vehicles in Europe, including the Prius, Corolla and Avensis. An additional 10,000 vehicles were being recalled in other parts of the world, including China and New Zealand, he said.

The recall follows more than 30 complaints filed with Toyota since March 2004, the carmaker said. The company wasn’t aware of any accidents attributed to the faulty parts, it said.

HeilSvenska 05-31-2006 12:53 PM

Toyotas are crap. My mother has one, but it's such a terrible car. It's poorly built, with cheap materials. It smells bad. They lied on the hp output. It's slow. The ride is nauseating. It doesn't handle. And it's NOT reliable. The engine sounds tired all the time as if it's going to let go any minute. It's developed some rattle somewhere. It's so easy to scratch the nasty hard plastic panels. And it's making noises inside the steering column. We took it to the dealer, but the jerkass service man practically said that we were imagining it.

dutchmasterflex 05-31-2006 01:20 PM

Hey, atleast they're recalling them ;) My family's track record with Toyota has been amazing.. All of our recent toyotas (bought 10 years ago) have 100,000+ miles and have been beaten to death by a teenage version of me. And they still take a good beating from me ;)


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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
Toyotas are crap. My mother has one, but it's such a terrible car. It's poorly built, with cheap materials. It smells bad. They lied on the hp output. It's slow. The ride is nauseating. It doesn't handle. And it's NOT reliable. The engine sounds tired all the time as if it's going to let go any minute. It's developed some rattle somewhere. It's so easy to scratch the nasty hard plastic panels. And it's making noises inside the steering column. We took it to the dealer, but the jerkass service man practically said that we were imagining it.

You bought the wrong toyota then.. they are economy cars, not sports cars. They are reliable, most likely you got a lemon. And another thing is to check the VIN for JP in the front which means that it was built in Japan..

HeilSvenska 05-31-2006 01:51 PM

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You bought the wrong toyota then.. they are economy cars, not sports cars. They are reliable, most likely you got a lemon. And another thing is to check the VIN for JP in the front which means that it was built in Japan..
It was indeed built in Japan. And it's a camry.

nthfinity 05-31-2006 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin005
how many times do you hear of such recalls from across the pond?? not many, but here in the states it happens much more often, so overseas its still more reliable!!

LMFAO!!!! what a total load of BS that isn't based on anything this side of reality :D

nthfinity 05-31-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dutchmasterflex
Hey, atleast they're recalling them ;) My family's track record with Toyota has been amazing.. All of our recent toyotas (bought 10 years ago) have 100,000+ miles and have been beaten to death by a teenage version of me. And they still take a good beating from me ;)


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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
Toyotas are crap. My mother has one, but it's such a terrible car. It's poorly built, with cheap materials. It smells bad. They lied on the hp output. It's slow. The ride is nauseating. It doesn't handle. And it's NOT reliable. The engine sounds tired all the time as if it's going to let go any minute. It's developed some rattle somewhere. It's so easy to scratch the nasty hard plastic panels. And it's making noises inside the steering column. We took it to the dealer, but the jerkass service man practically said that we were imagining it.

You bought the wrong toyota then.. they are economy cars, not sports cars. They are reliable, most likely you got a lemon. And another thing is to check the VIN for JP in the front which means that it was built in Japan..

my families history with Jeeps, Dodges, Fords, Lincolns, Pontiacs, etc. are all 100% reliable ;)

you might be stupid if you think recalls affect every single car covered under the recall... or even a significant portion of them... the liability costs of if something goes wrong too many times out weights the cost of issuing the recall bulliten.

some people really have no idea how it all works... E^x people, taht is reliability in a nutshell ;)

tuem88 05-31-2006 05:18 PM

1 million cars, 3 years, across the globe? That isn't much considering Toyota is one of the best selling brands. At least, that's what I think
And this can happen to any manufacturer, doesn't matter how reliable their cars normally are.

Zot09 05-31-2006 05:57 PM

Ford Reliability For You :) :P

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...A01-307765.htm
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With reports of engine fires mounting, Ford Motor Co. is warning owners of 3.8 million pickups and SUVs to have their cruise-control switches disconnected as part of one of the biggest recalls in automotive history.

The automaker said Wednesday that it is recalling a wide range of 1994-2002 model-year vehicles -- including its top selling F-150 pickup -- to fix cruise-control switches allegedly linked to more than 1,100 engine fires.

The defective cruise-control switch has grown into one of the most costly and widespread automotive safety problems since the Firestone tire recall and comes as Ford struggles to turn around its U.S. operations.

Fires linked to the switches have destroyed homes in Texas, Florida, California and elsewhere. In addition, wrongful-death lawsuits have been filed against Ford and two of its suppliers alleging that defective switches caused fires that killed a 74-year-old Iowa woman and a 4-year-old girl in Georgia.

It's the fifth largest auto recall on record and follows a similar recall in January of 800,000 pickups and SUVs built in the 2000 model year.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/...in285613.shtml
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(AP) Ford Motor Co. must replace defective ignition devices on an estimated 2 million California vehicles prone to stalling, a judge ruled Friday.

And those are just two of the 6,060,000 websites retrieved when I typed "Ford Recall News" into Google. When typing in "Toyota Recall News" I "only" get 1,550,000 hits back =p

Face it, every single automotive manufacturer has some type of reliability problem every once in a while. But now that Toyota has a recall, you decide to post it up as if it is some form of defense against the constant scrutiny American cars go through. Open your eyes, Japanese cars tend to be more reliable than their American counterparts. This isn't meant to be a personal attack against you nthfinity, but more like an attack against your arrogance and stubbornness when it comes to your perception on American reliability.

nthfinity 05-31-2006 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zot09
Ford Reliability For You :) :P

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...A01-307765.htm
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With reports of engine fires mounting, Ford Motor Co. is warning owners of 3.8 million pickups and SUVs to have their cruise-control switches disconnected as part of one of the biggest recalls in automotive history.

The automaker said Wednesday that it is recalling a wide range of 1994-2002 model-year vehicles -- including its top selling F-150 pickup -- to fix cruise-control switches allegedly linked to more than 1,100 engine fires.

The defective cruise-control switch has grown into one of the most costly and widespread automotive safety problems since the Firestone tire recall and comes as Ford struggles to turn around its U.S. operations.

Fires linked to the switches have destroyed homes in Texas, Florida, California and elsewhere. In addition, wrongful-death lawsuits have been filed against Ford and two of its suppliers alleging that defective switches caused fires that killed a 74-year-old Iowa woman and a 4-year-old girl in Georgia.

It's the fifth largest auto recall on record and follows a similar recall in January of 800,000 pickups and SUVs built in the 2000 model year.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/...in285613.shtml
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(AP) Ford Motor Co. must replace defective ignition devices on an estimated 2 million California vehicles prone to stalling, a judge ruled Friday.

And those are just two of the 6,060,000 websites retrieved when I typed "Ford Recall News" into Google. When typing in "Toyota Recall News" I "only" get 1,550,000 hits back =p

Face it, every single automotive manufacturer has some type of reliability problem every once in a while. But now that Toyota has a recall, you decide to post it up as if it is some form of defense against the constant scrutiny American cars go through. Open your eyes, Japanese cars tend to be more reliable than their American counterparts. This isn't meant to be a personal attack against you nthfinity, but more like an attack against your arrogance and stubbornness when it comes to your perception on American reliability.

this is a breaking news section. my post was based on information less tehn 24 hours old. welcome to last year Zot :roll:

Edit, or should i say April 2001 WTF

oh, and about my arrogance... i gurantee i know more about reliability then 99.9% of everyone on this forum.
and, where oh where did i mention that american cars are more reliable then japanese cars? NOWHERE.

your attack couldn't be more personal

somebody was stupid, and mentioned that their Yodas have historically been reliable. I pointed out the falacy of his argument by stating the truth that my families history with domestics has been identical to his with the Yoda's.

that has ABSOLLUTELY nothing to do with anything you said. you clearly just hate american cars, and want to make it an US vs. Them thread like so many other places.

my "arrogance" comes from years of study, and in hours and hours of dealings with big wigs in the major manufacturers.... where does yours come from?

RC45 05-31-2006 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin005
how many times do you hear of such recalls from across the pond?? not many, but here in the states it happens much more often, so overseas its still more reliable!!

There are less strict laws covering these types of things over seas.

Many coutries have NO such bodies that would require certain level problems be adressed by mandatory recalls, and are only voluntary company recalss.

5vz-fe 05-31-2006 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
It smells bad.

Ummm.... :roll:

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
They lied on the hp output.

Did you dyno it?


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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
It's slow.

The word fast probably never appeared in the catalog.

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
It doesn't handle.

What do you expect? it's a Camry, majority of Camry owners drive it slowly.

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
And it's NOT reliable.

How old is ur car (given that it's build in Japan, I suppose it's 10+ yrs). What broke so far?

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
The engine sounds tired all the time as if it's going to let go any minute.

Did it?

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
And it's making noises inside the steering column.

When the steering turn to its max, stop trying to turn it more, it kills the steering. Lots of women drivers do that.

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
We took it to the dealer, but the jerkass service man practically said that we were imagining it.

Change dealer.

dutchmasterflex 05-31-2006 07:04 PM

^ Well done :)

T-Bird 05-31-2006 09:23 PM

hey Zot09 don't get me started with Honda/Acura they have huge reliability issues on their newer vehicles like if you own one the trans WILL be replaced before 100K guaranteed on anything between like 98-03 and some newer but then newer haven't really gotten to those miles yet. Honda had a recall on airbags not too long ago. they had one on front struts on MDX and Pilots, a tire recall on 04-05 TL's and those are all recent as in the last year or two. Rattles are a way of life on Acura's all the 05 RL's had to have the Navi and XM computers replaced/reflashed. they are having some problems with their CMBS hardware. Fuel injectors are becoming a common thing on recent MDX's. that's all I can think of for right now. so hows that for a Japanese companies reliability?

nthfinity 05-31-2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Bird
hey Zot09 don't get me started with Honda/Acura they have huge reliability issues on their newer vehicles like if you own one the trans WILL be replaced before 100K guaranteed on anything between like 98-03 and some newer but then newer haven't really gotten to those miles yet. Honda had a recall on airbags not too long ago. they had one on front struts on MDX and Pilots, a tire recall on 04-05 TL's and those are all recent as in the last year or two. Rattles are a way of life on Acura's all the 05 RL's had to have the Navi and XM computers replaced/reflashed. they are having some problems with their CMBS hardware. Fuel injectors are becoming a common thing on recent MDX's. that's all I can think of for right now. so hows that for a Japanese companies reliability?

what? you mean that Honda's make unreliable cars that need warentee work too? Impossible :wink:

Mattk 05-31-2006 09:54 PM

Toyota have outsourced all its production except for Lexus, to places like Thailand. Quality control has thus diminished. I'm not surprised that they're not as well-built anymore.


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