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BADMIHAI 02-22-2005 10:19 PM

Toronto Autoshow Part II-Ferrari Maserati, etc. (200+ pics)
 
This time more "entire car" shots. Yes, they're all taken by me but I don't have time to put the logo on all of them. :)
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/4412/83636071mn.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4781/83636094yg.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8709/83636105vp.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/6553/83636113if.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4012/83636124al.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7028/83636152vm.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/1929/83636162jb.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9757/83636172nq.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8530/83636180mp.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/51/83636196qo.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/9859/83636201ad.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7476/83636229cv.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5159/83636246kz.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3894/83636253cz.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6257/83636265yb.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/176/83636274vd.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/3360/83636295my.th.jpg

Rice from the factory:
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/2391/83636318cv.th.jpg


http://img235.exs.cx/img235/1703/83636330vw.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5028/83636354lj.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8366/83636376vs.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/3043/83636394pq.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3795/83636400fv.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2926/83636423wk.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/3632/83636439wn.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/4379/83636440dr.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8056/83636454pk.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7543/83636474az.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/5109/83636492bi.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1148/83636519up.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7847/83636533qh.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/4149/83636564ln.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5452/83636574ey.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7353/83636595ap.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/9866/83636601bf.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2903/83636614uz.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5485/83636636ia.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2921/83636643cz.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/4618/83636660ka.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2192/83636673ta.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4415/83636682wj.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6627/83636749hg.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/7783/83636817ow.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6065/83636823an.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2301/83636834bc.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/959/83636858kf.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/6167/83636864fb.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/660/83636921bd.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1320/83636952mv.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9728/83636975vk.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/20/83636981ca.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2290/83636991wa.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2893/83637004ct.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8806/83737015lo.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/9754/83737035ut.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4793/83737043dx.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5428/83737063ff.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1769/83737073to.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/926/83737093jj.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6154/83737123ax.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/104/83737166wh.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5827/83737203bv.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/2295/83737217oh.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9361/83737221nb.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7645/83737242js.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7272/83737257sk.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/8484/83737284iu.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2900/83737308ba.th.jpg

In a shitty colour (yes, it was actually pink :cry: ), but still one of my favourite cars of all time: 300SL
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/2593/83737316sx.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3764/83737324hb.th.jpg

The Pontiac Solstice looked horrible IMO. It seems like a decent roadster until you see that disgusting front grille. :o

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/2906/83737340ra.th.jpg

This is a cool concept car from GM:
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/8508/83737384ra.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/7419/83737408ne.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/3566/83737419so.th.jpg

The C6 Z06 looks fantastic! The curves (especially the front wheel arches) reminded me of one of the best looking cars of all time: the early 70's Singray:
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/6467/83737458bt.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7853/83737462rt.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4597/83737479ca.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6955/83737488no.th.jpg
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/7553/83737490ee.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5044/83737505vx.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/8331/83737516zd.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8946/83737527ac.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4056/83737543lj.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5665/83737546bl.th.jpg

And now for Ferrari. There was a huge line-up of people waiting to get close to the Ferraris. They were all boxed in and the representatives would only let one person at a time every 10 minutes or so. But this older lady from Ferrari saw me with the tripod and must've thought I was a professional photographer because she let me in in front of everyone. 8) The F430 looked fucking stunning. :shock: The wheels on the 612 were nasty. :(

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/195/83737579mr.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5559/83737597zl.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8396/83737619bp.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9492/83737620fy.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/6797/83737634ap.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/3954/83737674mb.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6500/83737681hw.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9725/83737712qg.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/276/83737729ir.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3526/83737738ne.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2690/83737745md.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/994/83737752pg.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4530/83737766tz.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3356/83737774ab.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/590/83737788lv.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/3533/83737815qp.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/395/83737827sb.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/7676/83737833pt.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5046/83737847ug.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1399/83737850ff.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/4817/83737862yt.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8374/83737874ud.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2320/83737908yy.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1287/83737917uk.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/811/83737945hv.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4377/83737969cv.th.jpghttp://img164.exs.cx/img164/4537/83737973es.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/896/83737987ox.th.jpghttp://img164.exs.cx/img164/9410/83738004tm.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4307/83838011vy.th.jpg

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/6978/83838023dt.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4393/83838046et.th.jpghttp://img164.exs.cx/img164/9027/83838057em.th.jpg

Now on to Lambo. The Murcielago Roadster was stunning. I talked to the big cheese there (he was Italian). He said he's been out with Valentino Balboni and that the dude (Valentino) is amazing. 8)
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/9486/83838076ft.th.jpghttp://img164.exs.cx/img164/2719/83838095di.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9021/83838111jf.th.jpg

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/8682/83838129vp.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7465/83838131ln.th.jpghttp://img164.exs.cx/img164/7749/83838142br.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7129/83838178bj.th.jpg

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/5850/83838187oh.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/3860/83838199zj.th.jpghttp://img164.exs.cx/img164/8554/83838232qu.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7800/83838222ym.th.jpg

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/4240/83838249ja.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7583/83838276ns.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1258/83838268ip.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/3673/83838304ug.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/65/83838313gz.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8104/83838326ly.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/540/83838336bb.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1939/83838356un.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/7223/83838371pb.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9506/83838392mt.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6906/83838409ig.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2102/83838415np.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3249/83838427re.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9754/83838430uo.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1106/83838451xv.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9199/83838470js.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/2656/83838499lf.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4669/83838605qf.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/725/83838679bm.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/8886/83838704dg.th.jpg

For the brembo and Sameer' :
http://img235.exs.cx/img235/9797/83838734gd.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9928/83838747cl.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/5599/83838788cs.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2685/83838804wi.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/491/83838839kg.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2403/83838842ef.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/8867/83838856ip.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4563/83838864mj.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6397/83838880kf.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/8412/83838929nh.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/4175/83838932ev.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9973/83838941no.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5089/83838954oy.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/7708/83838962bf.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/6093/83838973ro.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/5281/83838986gn.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/7343/83838994gi.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/1811/83839004mr.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/2336/83939036kt.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/647/83939052nq.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9742/83939073qj.th.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/4832/83939094db.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/1323/83939102po.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9657/83939133vy.th.jpghttp://img235.exs.cx/img235/9101/83939148mh.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/5726/83939155lm.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/3884/83939162gz.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/9302/83939171ou.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/151/83939188sa.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/9361/83939197qs.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/922/83939202vr.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/282/83939211un.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/2748/83939226wp.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/8239/83939233lg.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/4827/83939259gn.th.jpg

P3 and GT40. It was incredible how wide the read tires were on the P3
http://img1.exs.cx/img1/3443/83939262qy.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/8224/83939271qs.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/9206/83939288uo.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/5261/83939301kz.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/6010/83939315bk.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/4297/83939326bv.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/9117/83939333va.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/5710/83939346ua.th.jpg

Miniature (already sold):
http://img1.exs.cx/img1/2700/83939356pz.th.jpg

Bye-bye Autoshow. See you next year! :lol:

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/1436/83939369cq.th.jpg

EDIT: Merged the previous topic with this one:
http://img206.exs.cx/img206/5424/83434629vz.th.jpghttp://img206.exs.cx/img206/5827/83434646kt.th.jpghttp://img116.exs.cx/img116/3778/83434636op.th.jpg

http://img206.exs.cx/img206/1866/83434662pd.th.jpghttp://img116.exs.cx/img116/5286/83434680kp.th.jpghttp://img206.exs.cx/img206/806/83434704ti.th.jpg

http://img116.exs.cx/img116/8269/83434728qe.th.jpghttp://img206.exs.cx/img206/5967/83434754ys.th.jpghttp://img206.exs.cx/img206/478/83434774bx.th.jpg

http://img116.exs.cx/img116/5494/83434763nx.th.jpghttp://img206.exs.cx/img206/1324/83434783xc.th.jpghttp://img116.exs.cx/img116/3305/83434790ie.th.jpg

http://img206.exs.cx/img206/6115/83434814cj.th.jpghttp://img116.exs.cx/img116/2328/83434823is.th.jpghttp://img206.exs.cx/img206/5374/83434841al.th.jpg

http://img116.exs.cx/img116/4771/83434863kz.th.jpghttp://img206.exs.cx/img206/4761/83434879ai.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/6009/83434899ky.th.jpg
http://img53.exs.cx/img53/3509/83434919hw.th.jpg
http://img53.exs.cx/img53/9813/83434920kx.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/9481/83434936fw.th.jpg
http://img53.exs.cx/img53/9219/83434949qb.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/3263/83434972eb.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/4454/83434999nr.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/650/83434964af.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/4984/83535021ik.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/6704/83535072lt.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/6144/83535091rr.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/4503/83535103zi.th.jpg

For the JW Audi Strike Team. :mrgreen:

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/7105/83535128cd.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/1720/83535137sd.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/7845/83535167pf.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/6783/83535189ng.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/8467/83535263ki.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/3596/83535350at.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/2880/83535362yg.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/5870/83535394fq.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/5894/83535556kq.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/7924/83535578ul.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/6586/83535589um.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/145/83535601hy.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/1591/83535619qd.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/9663/83535629rw.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/2027/83535636ov.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/5505/83535644vi.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/6349/83535693ha.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/6031/83535759yl.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/5079/83535802vv.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/3741/83535827iw.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/1940/83535842nq.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/4027/83535853cc.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/4950/83535891ga.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/5761/83535943bs.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/7867/83535968ft.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/8739/83535979gt.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/3849/83636026xt.th.jpg

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/4105/83535984an.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/2944/83636035sd.th.jpghttp://img53.exs.cx/img53/5449/83636041wy.th.jpg

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/8586/83636058cy.th.jpg

Subaru Impreza WRX STi:

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/2068/83636070ds.th.jpghttp://img1.exs.cx/img1/9342/83636083oh.th.jpg


A few "entire car" shots:

http://img31.exs.cx/img31/8167/83636092nx.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/6783/83636102mj.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/555/83636114bh.th.jpg

http://img31.exs.cx/img31/8910/83636121er.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/6986/83636154xf.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/2783/83636165op.th.jpg

http://img31.exs.cx/img31/6585/83636184kd.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/4808/83636174je.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/6076/83636192ax.th.jpg

http://img31.exs.cx/img31/8536/83636204fi.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/6085/83636229up.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/4329/83636243cz.th.jpg

http://img31.exs.cx/img31/4786/83636255du.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/4786/83636255du.th.jpghttp://img31.exs.cx/img31/5713/83636263cy.th.jpg

Herceg 02-22-2005 11:09 PM

MAAAAN IM GOING TOMMOROW!!!! i cant wait...those lambo's are really nicee!! cant wait too go :wink:

tigerx 02-22-2005 11:24 PM

oh boo, my picture wont' be able to compete with yours lol :P. i went today, great show, the chick at the lambo booth was SOLID.

btw, did you find the "general Lee" at the show?

SFDMALEX 02-22-2005 11:26 PM

Hey Bad, did you have a tripod with you? If you did then Im pretty sure I saw your punk ass there j/k...I just saw a guy with curly hair, around 6 feet, kinda looked like you.....not sure though since I didnt really look.

BADMIHAI 02-23-2005 12:37 AM

I guess that was me indeed. I did take a tripod with me. Here's a pic of me at the show: http://img227.exs.cx/img227/9126/83838620gn.th.jpg

komotar 02-23-2005 06:49 AM

That's one massive post man!

Thx, I'll be browsing trought the pics for the rest of the day....

Are you sure you're only 18. You look older......maybe it's the hair and the serious face...

SFDMALEX 02-23-2005 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BADMIHAI
I guess that was me indeed. I did take a tripod with me. Here's a pic of me at the show: http://img227.exs.cx/img227/9126/83838620gn.th.jpg

YEah it was you. Nice afro man. I want an afro too :lol:

BADMIHAI 02-23-2005 08:47 AM

Quote:

Are you sure you're only 18
I am sure. :lol:

Quote:

Nice afro man.
Thanks! It is very popular with the ladies. And I'm not joking. :| 8)

komotar 02-23-2005 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Awesome post dude! I love the detailed pics of the Ferraris, Lambos, MC12... but some more whole-car shots would have been even better! Thanks a lot!!! :D

And about being a "professional photographer" at the Ferrari stand... thanks for the advise, now I know what to do at the Geneva show next month: I need a pro camera and a tripod and stare in front of the Ferrari stand until someone there let me enter! :lol:

dude, just walk in with the confidence of Jay-Z and when they say: "sir, excuse me, who are you, and what are you doing here"(and they will), make the stupidest face in the world and say: pardon me, do you know who I am?
Say you're from car mag or somethng and that you're really sorry that you forgot your press indentification in the hotel room and that you know better than that. Say that you tought that they were notified that you are comming......

This way, you'll be faster than them in mentioning the press identification, wich will throw their doubts out of the window. say you're kindove in a hurry because you have to get to the lambo stands and then you have a meeting in the town centre.... and it would really be in your way to go all the way back to the hotel.....but if they want , they can call the the people who run the motor show, who have the list of journalists visiting....and they won't want to go to all that trouble because of one guy.....then just say, you'll be quick, that you just have to take some outside and inside shots. When you say inside shots be as calm and confident as possible, that's your way inside....trust me...............if your bluff will be convincing you'll get interior shots of some of the main stars....

trust me, this is expirience talking.

Good luck, and don't forget the tripod. And one more thing. Try to bring one to many bags. The ones that you store you equiptment in. You'll be more convincing......

Stikz 02-23-2005 12:08 PM

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i went today, great show, the chick at the lambo booth was SOLID.
i know exactly the one you're talking about. I tried to take a pic, but was politely declined.

By the way, amazing pics badmihai. Looks like they had more lights on when you went.

adamwich 02-23-2005 12:11 PM

Some really nice cars - thanks for sharing the pictures!

BADMIHAI 02-23-2005 01:17 PM

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Looks like they had more lights on when you went.
They didn't. The lighting was a pain in the ass actually, with all those overhead lights making weird reflections. I just used long exposures. :mrgreen:

SilviaEvo 02-23-2005 01:26 PM

Wow Mihai the professional photographer!!! sounds catchy dont it?

BADMIHAI 02-23-2005 01:42 PM

Hahahaa. I wouldn't mind being a photographer. It seems like a damn nice job.

Wutputt 02-23-2005 04:24 PM

Some great coverage of the show. I loooove the detailed pics. Nice job ;)


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