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is64fun 11-06-2004 03:31 PM

The old supercars vs. the new supercars
 
i watched the enzo video on topgear and the comparison between the old and the new supercars. why they did not drive the old supercars around the circuit. i really want to know the lap time of the mclaren f1 and the f40 around that track. by the way we would have an idea between the old and the new

bmwmpower 11-06-2004 03:39 PM

yes, but i think nothing from that cars can beat Enzo time, mclaren is in the straight line brutal fast,but in cornerns is not that fast,

is64fun 11-06-2004 03:48 PM

i think it can pass the enzo. we can not know whether it is faster or nor in the corners since we did not drive them side by sides in the same circuit in the same conditions.

kayser-soze 11-06-2004 03:56 PM

i think the same way with you. we can make a comparison if we can compare them. WOWWWWWWWWWWWthat would be real cooool man!

jon_s 11-06-2004 04:00 PM

Christ, to think the F1 is from a different 'era'. Makes me feel old even though I am not!

is64fun 11-06-2004 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
The Enzo is the fastest road car on a track... as the McLaren used to be some years ago. You can't compare them because they belong to two different eras. The old supercars are simplier, without electronics aids, so they are more fun to drive. New supercars, on the other hand, use F1 technology so be sure they'll be faster in any condition.

mclaren f1 used to have the pure f1 tech in its nature. with its aerodynamic features it is the exact combination of engineering with pure f1 technology. i think it can beat enzo still if there is a test between them. it is not the car of a certain era. it is the car of the formula 1 era.

mclaren_Gt 11-06-2004 04:08 PM

i think the mclaren is faster than enzo, and the jaguar xj220 is faster than f40, i realy want to know the lap time of the f1 and xj220

and the eb110 for me should be in that program

bmwmpower 11-07-2004 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclaren_Gt
i think the mclaren is faster than enzo, and the jaguar xj220 is faster than f40, i realy want to know the lap time of the f1 and xj220

and the eb110 for me should be in that program

EB110 is brutal with power of V8 6turbo and 4.4, his time will be surprise,
better question is how fast can be veyron,

adamk24 11-07-2004 05:19 AM

Even though the McLaren F1 is my all time Fav. Car, I still think the enzo will be faster around a track. Heres why. The F1 is an amazing car, and people that critisize its handling, is because its not a car that needs to slip at either end. Its not about controlled oversteer, its about grip, just like an f1 car. You wont ever see an f1 driver drifting a corner....
However, the Enzo is the same way, and the cornering loads and enzo can take (1.08g) is way higher than a Mclaren F1 (.98), and after watching them both lap alot of tracks, Id say this. The Mclaren is more fun. The enzo is faster. :|

adamk24 11-07-2004 05:24 AM

Oops forgot to finish what I was saying...

Quote:

The enzo is faster
With that said, I think an F40 would own the zonda on a track. Between the EB110, Zonda, CGT, Mc. Merc. , F40, F50, Enzo, F1 and XJ220, this is what I would expect them to rank on a track.

1)Enzo
2)F1
3)CGT
4)F50
5)F40
6)Mc.Merc.
7)Zonda
8)XJ220
9)EB110
I have no statistical information to back this up, but based on cornering ability and power, Id bet that the F40 and F50 could beat the mc.merc and zonda at a track.

dingo 11-07-2004 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwmpower
EB110 is brutal with power of V8 6turbo and 4.4, his time will be surprise,
better question is how fast can be veyron,

I think every number you gave is wrong.....if I remember correctly it has a 3.5L V12 with 4 turbos. :wink:

is64fun 11-07-2004 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamk24
Even though the McLaren F1 is my all time Fav. Car, I still think the enzo will be faster around a track. Heres why. The F1 is an amazing car, and people that critisize its handling, is because its not a car that needs to slip at either end. Its not about controlled oversteer, its about grip, just like an f1 car. You wont ever see an f1 driver drifting a corner....
However, the Enzo is the same way, and the cornering loads and enzo can take (1.08g) is way higher than a Mclaren F1 (.98), and after watching them both lap alot of tracks, Id say this. The Mclaren is more fun. The enzo is faster. :|

where do you these cornering speeds? give me a link

bmwmpower 11-07-2004 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingo22
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwmpower
EB110 is brutal with power of V8 6turbo and 4.4, his time will be surprise,
better question is how fast can be veyron,

I think every number you gave is wrong.....if I remember correctly it has a 3.5L V12 with 4 turbos. :wink:

no, only wrong was V8,4.4 its not engine i mean 4*4 all wheels drive,
and it was engine with 6 turbos

dingo 11-07-2004 08:01 AM

that was confusing, you should write 4x4 to indicate that. :wink:
The Bugatti EB110 still only has 4 turbos though, not sure where you get 6 from. :?

bmwmpower 11-07-2004 09:42 AM

from speed,maybe they are wrong,


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