Autocross = voided warranty...
 

After reading this crap it is no wonder Ferrari is skeeeered to provide test vehicles to magazines... they know they will break in 5 minutes.. ;)

http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=02612566

that kind of sucks but if you think about the fact that mitsubishi is in alot of trouble money wise at the moment I would kind of understand their reasoning. You have to be willing to pay the conseguences when you go out racing a car I'm sure this has happened with other companies aswell. It does suck but it wouldn't hurt him to get those parts upgraded anyway.

Well - even Porsche have jumped on this "deny warranty" band wagon...

The sad part, is that GM will void your warranty even if you decide to install their heavy duty parts just for street use.

You really can't blame the auto makers for this. They all street cars are not going to be able to handle constant hard driving and its unreallistic for consumers to think that the manufacturer should replace their engine because they went out and blew it up.

yeah, this is old news eh!? sposedly, they have this searching program for the internet and also the national auto x sign ups and shit...when they find a mitsu, they mark it down...it really sux for the evo 8 drivers down in the states...

Don't even try go there.

I battled head to head with GM - and finally got them to replace my engine. For the longest time they wanted to deny warranty simply because I have a 5 point harness in my car.

They didn't even have proof of me racing my car - which never happened.. and all the failures that occured were well known documented failures with factory advised replacements/repairs.

These guys are denying warranty for just participating in an event... not only if you arrive with a failure... but just having been participating.

This means if you attend an event in March - and they decide to black list you and you suffer a failure in Octobver they are then getting out of the warranty claim that really was not related to you track event.

Manufacturers are well known for doing what ever they can to get out of warranty repairs - especially if it is an inherent failure they failed to engineer for.

Combine that with how frail todays cars are and I think the days of increasing horsepower will soon end... simply because manufacturers (even Porsch and BMW and Mercdes and Ferrari etc) cut so many corners to save money - they have cars that "go fast for magazine tests" but can not survive medium use without breaking.

Think about it - you have a 450hp car that can do 0-60 in 4s and tops out at 190mph - yet the manufacturer wants to void the warrenty becuase you ecxeeded the speed limit and did a high RPM launch.

Bullshit - they are therefore only engineering the cars to be able warranteed for operation in the lowest 15% of the performance envelope.

What a cop out.

See the threasd about the dead Vanquish - and go hang out on vehicle specific forums to see just how badly todays performance cars are made.

You will be very shocked.

Performance cars break more easily because the manufacturers are cutting corners to cut costs i agree with that and i also agree that most warrenties are bull and the dealers declare them void for no particular reason, like what happened to you.

But high performance engines are never going to be as durable as lower tuned versions. As manufacturers strive to gain every bit of bhp out of the engine as they can they put way to much strain on the internals of the engine and with hard or abusive driving the motor will fail. Its just not practicle for car companies to produce engines strong enough to withstand the amount of power they want them to produce.

To be fair, a Ferrari will last in Track days event but will prolly break in autocross circuits. It is well known that AutoX beat up cars alot harsher than they do on Tracks due to the fact that many owners at slow corners go deep into the red zone, as well as not-so-smooth gear changes. Adding to that, u are constanting changing between 1-2, 2-1.....killing the sycros.... All these factors make cars take unnecessary wear.

Also you dont generate great speeds which is good for a novice driving but doesnt help you're car keep it's cool in the middle of a parking lot.

We've all seen how you drive. :lol:

Not a lot harder, just different. Especially on different tracks. Go through rotors/pads/tires a hell of alot faster on the track. Depending on size of track the shifting might be the same thing(thinking some of those converted motorcycle tracks in the south). You have to remember.. autox lasts like 35 seconds... the track could last 25 mins.

Frankly, I think they need to do this to some extent to avoid feeding someones race habit or, especially on a turbo car, making up for someone who doesnt understand how high you can turn the boost up before you blow something.

That being said, going to one autox shouldnt be that point, and they certainly shouldnt market their cars for scca and such and then void warrenties for using them that way.

When I got my evo from the first day the dealer said I can't give you any type of warranty on the car.. I smiled and was happy with what I got.. Knock on wood. No major problems so far except.

1- Changed the clutch few thousand times already.
2- Changed all the syncro on the gear. :roll: .
I'm accully happy that they told me from the first day that their is no warranty on the evo.. Coz I was able to get it suped up much faster.. But Although I wished they had one coz the cost of replacing such parts is pretty much very expensive and I could of used it for something eles rather than the car it self.

And as some of you pointed out some manufacturers promote autocrossing or any other sport event like Audi. But some don't so what's the deal.?

Exactly...

This is fucked. They make a sports car for what purpose? non-sports driving? This is just sad.

Anyone know if Ferrari does the same?

Well, this is Porsches stance..

I would imagine Ferraris wording would be very much the same....

Just did a search and this is a quote that I found "The warranty of the Ferrari 360 Stradale is still applicable after a limited track event (= no 24 hours race but a gentlemen drivers race is ok) I do not see why a Porsche lost all waranty after half an hours track pleasure"


And I found a guy say on FerrariChat that Ferrari seems to be the only complany left that does not void warranty if used used on track. PHEWW! Thank God there is someone left who understands us.

And to confirm this is the fact that Ferrari Organized Ferrari days for many years. Last year it was at Spa I think. Previously it was at Muggelo.