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AlienDB7 06-18-2004 10:05 PM

GM brought Nurburgring to America
 
GM builds a mini-Nordschleife for U.S.-based testing

Situated in Germany's Eifel Mountains, the 14.1-mile, 170-plus turn Nürburgring Nordschleife (North Loop) hosted 20 Formula One races between 1951 and 1976. After Niki Lauda's Ferrari crashed and caught fire there in '76, F1 deemed the circuit too dangerous, but for years now it has served as the ultimate production car development course. The 'Ring's unparalleled combination of high-speed corners, severe braking zones and vertigo-inducing elevation changes offers engineers an extreme challenge on which to hone their products. Plus, the roads around Castle Nurburg are convenient for European carmakers, especially German ones like Porsche, BMW and Mercedes-Benz. It is, however, decidedly less so for U.S. or Asian manufacturers. GM was among those that decided it was worth the trip, especially since the arrival of Bob Lutz as product development czar.

Since '97, GM made three to four Nürburgring trips per year, for two to three weeks per trip, says Frank Taverna, engineering group manager for General Motors' prestige, performance and luxury cars. Cadillac's CTS and CTS-V, Chevrolet's 2005 Corvette and Saturn's Ion Redline were among the cars tested on such trips. "Now, we'll probably cut down to two trips per year, two weeks per trip," Taverna says.

GM hasn't capped its commitment to performance or slashed the budget. Instead, it has brought a piece of Nordschleife home, to its Milford (Michigan) Proving Ground. At 3.6-miles in its longest configuration, GM's new $7 million Milford Road Course opened in December and combines what engineers deem Nürburgring's most useful features with those of several U.S. circuits. From the German track's banked Karussell to Virginia International Raceway's esses, the course (which the media dubbed "the Lutzitsring") allows engineers to dial in cars for less money and in less time than before.

"The biggest advantage is having all these features added up at one track," Taverna says. "In the past, if we had, say, an oil starvation problem, we'd have to think about the best place to go. [Spring Mountain Motorsports Park in Pahrump, Nevada] is a good place to do that. Higher-speed stuff, you'd go to VIR, and to Germany for the body-motion stuff. You couldn't really do it all at one track."

With 20 turns, 98 feet of elevation change and at least five commonly used configurations, the new course impresses from behind the wheel. The MRC is so new that Taverna isn't sure of all the layout possibilities-and minor alterations were being made as late as Memorial Day.

GM allowed us several laps on its own North Loop, a low-speed, 12-turn layout that includes the 25-degree high-banked left-hander that is nearly twice as steep as the 'Ring's Karussell. It provides sensations akin to driving inside-to use the development engineer's term-a toilet bowl. It's a 16.2-foot vertical drop from the top of the banking to the bottom.

Later, we drove the C6 Corvette for several evaluation laps on a different configuration and found it really stretched both car and driver to their limits. (Patience, dear reader-we're not allowed to comment on the Vette until Aug. 1.) While GM hasn't let us loose on the full course, Taverna says the most commonly used 2.9-mile version allows a C5 Corvette Z06 to reach 155 mph, after which it must brake hard for a downhill decreasing-radius turn.

It's a tough test, but if "validated in Milford" does not excite you quite as much as "developed at the Nürburgring," there are still those two trips to Germany per year to give street cred to GM's cars. Thanks to the MRC, engineers expect to be better prepared when they arrive. "Those trips will become more of a check-off ride," Taverna says. "When we develop a car here, we expect it to be able to go over there and function just fine."

Source: http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=03634144

TT 06-19-2004 04:20 AM

Good news, but will it be open to normal users like the NS is :D?

SilviaEvo 06-19-2004 04:47 AM

i dont think it will be open to normal users but im too lazy to read it

Ford Capri 2.8i 06-19-2004 06:33 AM

Its good news for a car customer, therefore the GM cars will be more competitive in terms of a compromise between stability and confort quality....and this stuff is going to cause an even more hard challenge for manufactures...

yg60m 06-19-2004 07:21 AM

Great idea !! But it is far to make the length of the original :wink:

nthfinity 06-19-2004 08:54 AM

it would be most awsome if it were open to mear humans.

even if it were, GM would require a racing licence to ride it

spd 06-19-2004 10:54 AM

it will be awsome if we can drive on the track

Tomerville 06-19-2004 11:12 AM

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even if it were, GM would require a racing licence to ride it
Unfortunately, that is all too true.

HeilSvenska 06-19-2004 02:24 PM

America needs less ovals , but more circles (Nardo) and road circuits (Imola)

nthfinity 06-19-2004 02:47 PM

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America needs less ovals , but more circles (Nardo) and road circuits (Imola)
i am fairly sure that ovals outnumber circuits... however, i dont think its as large a deficet as you suggest.

what needs to change is the popularity of the non-oval forms of racing :wink:

graywolf624 06-19-2004 04:57 PM

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and road circuits (Imola)
We have more then you think.. and several new ones are opening up shortly. The sport is also gaining popularity.. most of the driving schools are selling out now.

Tracks on the east coast that I know of.:
pocono raceway, VIR, beaver run, Road Atlanta, Watkins glen, theres a new one being built in south jersey, the new one at englishtown, nj being built, and little taledega.

In other states the ones I know of are TWS, Road america, Laguna Seca, Thunderhill, willow springs, ect.

Thats nowhere near all.. thats just top of my head tracks I know people who have open tracked on.
Also most of those nascar tracks have infield road courses.


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