End of the road for the Mazda RX-8
Never lived up to the RX-7 name, but still a really good car. It's been a good 8 years.
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Its been 8 years already? I still hate it as much as I did on day 1 :P
It is a gutless hack - I would rather have a used 1l 4 seater VW Golf diesel as a daily driver and then an MX5 as a proper sports car, than this wannabe not-really a sports car mish mash :lol: |
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RX8 you won't be missed. You had fancy cloth but you never made the cut.
Looking forward for the RX9 or futur RX7... |
I've been debating on getting one of these and before you crucify me.....
They're the only affordable, relatively newish RWD driftable car on the second hand market here in greece. New car prices here are extortionate and the second hand market just does not make any sense e.g. you can see 2-3 yr old models with plenty of mileage (for example the v.w. scirocco) that still demand just 1-3k off the list price (list price being in the mid EUR 30's).......and also the fact that it has just a 1.3litre engine means the government here doesn't come down on you like an Old East-European communist regime! last summer I went to look at a few Rx-8s, two actually. THe first one I test drove made me think that it had some sort of problem or that the guy was trying to pawn off the 192bhp model as the 231bhp....until I test drove the second one from a dealer (231bhp)....I have never felt 230 horses feel like mules, and until you pass near on 5500rpm theres nothing, not that theres much after..... so yeah, I doubt it will be missed much. So I turned my eyes to a car I've liked since its launch in 2004, the Nissan 350Z. It had a list price here of near on 60k Euros when new (when in the UK it was about 26K GBP!) and the older models still command somewhere in the region of 30k. So i'll stick with my 4WD audi for now and reminisce about my younger yrs in the UK where a fun car can be bought on a budget :-( |
^S2000? They are plenty fun too ;)
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It's been a long time, I no longer get lots of time to read posts here
The Rx8 may be dead, but not its soul, the rotary will return, you can count on that A lot of stuff has happened at Mazda in the past couple years, but there are many exciting things coming down the pipeline I cannot comment on exactly what but I'm sure you'll like it when it does materialize, the 6 is due for a refresh and it is getting much more than just that as you may already know. And the rotary has not been forgotten by any means just like the renesis made the 13b look like a relic from the civil war what will appear will make the renesis also obsolete |
wow, nice to hear from you again, 10,000.
Honestly, while I like the idea of the rotary, it just doesn't work for street use; but is amazing for racing. Mazda is hurting more lately than they have for some time... they really need a winning design with a turbocharged rotary to really knock it out of the park; and still maintain the low weight. Truthfully, I'd love to see one in the Miata. |
Poor fuel economy, low low-end torque pretty much offsets most of the positive notes of the rotary design. Let's face it, RX-8 is not a heavy car, but the engine still feels dead until 4000 rpm, not to mention the fuel consumption of a 3.5 V6. To me, the perfect Mazda will be a hardtop MX-5 with a NA 3 rotor engine, maybe with some of their latest weight saving technology to make it in the low 2000lb range.
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Lotus seems to be going after the 911 market, and I think that is a very tough sell. Porsche owners are extremely loyal. Unless Lotus come up with a car that trumps the performance of the 991, I don't see them having much sales of the new Espirt.
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^No kidding, but 1 good decision they made over the years is to use the Toyota sourced engine. It made the car much more reliable.
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