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lakatu 05-30-2004 02:11 PM

Can't get enough of the Carrera GT. Thanks.

dons5 05-30-2004 11:06 PM

well Ferrari could of made the Enzo to go i think it was either over 240 mph or 250 mph, but andF1 car never goes that fast ever so they said it wouldnt make sense and mainly because they were concentrating on other aspects of the car and didnt car about top speed as you could never hit that when u are racing anyways ( which is what these cars are meant for), so there is no point, the enzo does the quarter mile faster then the f1 and with a higher speed trap at the end of the quarter mile, and one more theing, all u people think the F1 goes 240 mph, it doesnt, it goes 231, the one that hit 240 wasnt the same one that u could buy i think it was some testing version before the Mac actually came into production or something like that, look it up.

gucom 05-31-2004 12:05 PM

The CGT will destroy the F40 or the F50 on a real circuit, totally destroy. Think about htis: the CGT has almost 150 hp more, ALOT more downforce, and much more sophisticated technology. the comparison in htis test is the same as me saying a go-kart is faster than a F1 car: at least in the go-kart i'd set a time at a circuit, in the F1 i'd spin if i tried to do anything fast.

In the hands of real talented drivers the CGT will be much much faster than the F1, the only place the F1 can beat the CGT will be in a straight line.

c0wb0y007 08-23-2004 04:45 PM

HEhe, Yep, looks like it is Rowan Atkinson behind the steering wheel of the Mclaren or at least this a a lookalike guy :) But it is known that he owns one, still not sure this is Mr. Bean :) I wonder that he takes the Mclaren's steering wheel with him just like he does with the wheel of his mini in one of his shows :lol:

CHeers

TT 08-23-2004 04:47 PM

If you will pay attention to the scans you will see at the beginning "words by Rowan Atkinson" indeed. He is a part time contributor, did a couple of features so far.

c0wb0y007 08-23-2004 05:14 PM

Ok, Thanks. You are right his name is shown on top of the article, didn't see or know that. I have a few EVO magazines myself but none of those contain an article by Mr. Atkinson.

Cool scan

CHeers

mindgam3 08-23-2004 06:08 PM

I'd say the CGT beats most of them around a track, but we are forgetting the F1 is 10 years old and the F40 15 and they are still at the relatively same pace as all current supercar incarnations

jamberl 08-23-2004 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindgam3
I'd say the CGT beats most of them around a track, but we are forgetting the F1 is 10 years old and the F40 15 and they are still at the relatively same pace as all current supercar incarnations


Yes but lets not forget how expensive the F1 is. And also, if the F40 was made today, I doubt very much if it would pass all the necessary requirements (crash safety, etc) to be road legal. Automotive designers have to face a much stricter set of challenges now with all that stuff- you cant really compare the two.

DeMoN 08-23-2004 08:11 PM

bigger then the one I had. I read that on my way over to the US in the airplane thanx TT

68-998 08-23-2004 08:14 PM

Thanks TT, that is a great article. Very well written, and not as biased as you would think.

Didn't Rowan Atkinson prang his F1 just after he got it? I seem to remember that for some reason. Wonder how much the repair bill was? :) Probably as much as a Carrera GT!

sameerrao 08-23-2004 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68-998
Thanks TT, that is a great article. Very well written, and not as biased as you would think.

Didn't Rowan Atkinson prang his F1 just after he got it? I seem to remember that for some reason. Wonder how much the repair bill was? :) Probably as much as a Carrera GT!

I heard that it costs as much as a new Ferrari. But not sure if this a fact... :)

yugo 08-24-2004 08:05 AM

This vs is cool, but which is more fast : Enzo or Mclaren F1 in a circuit.

samtek 08-29-2004 11:02 PM

they should compare the ENZO to the mclaren or maybe the zonda!! But i think the mclaren will be the best car in the world still for some years... But ENZO is sexier IMO!! :wink:

SnakeBitten 09-08-2004 06:56 PM

The great Dario[Ferrari test driver extrodinaire] tested the Enzo vs the Mclaren and said the Enzo just cant quite beat the Mclaren...Do a search and you will find it on the web...Anyone that thinks an F50 or F40 can beat the Mclaren is not thinking fully.....Neither one of those cars can approach the accelerative brute force of the Mclaren nor the handling...As great as the F50 and F40 is they are no comparison to the F1....Mclaren did 138mph in the 1/4...That obliterates even the mighty Enzo...How will the F50-F40 keep up?

I saw that BM video...You cant take what you see there as a end all and be all....You have different driver skills involved....They have to avoid each other etc...Its not a true test of what a car can do....In one they had an M3 CSL keeping up with a Porsche GT2[460hp] on the straights...Another they had an NSX[290hp] running with a Murcielago[585hp]...On a crowded track everyones bunched up giving the illusion of a closely matched cars...A true test would be same day, same driver attacking a roadcourse in one car after the other. No one blocking you from taking the best lines around the track..Top Gear has the right idea witht he STIG...

BTW the F1 LM streetcar will annihilate any of the hyperexotics...It is the GOAT....Greatest Of All Time....


EDIT: heres the link talking about Dario vs the Mclaren.....The track was slightly downhill and the Enzo still couldnt beat the Mclaren's numbers....This page used to contain more dont know what happened...

http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/h...april/enzo.asp

twboy1999 09-10-2004 02:20 PM

everyone know that mclaren f1 acc faster then enzo

but f1 is not a great handling car... i am not suprise if it out handles by f40 or f50 in the handling department.. but seems like u dont think so

most of the article i have read about f1,, they said it had body role.. and handling was one of it weaker point


enzo vs regular f1 on the track.. enzo would win for sure


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