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HeilSvenska 12-04-2007 02:12 PM

Play the GRID demo and win the $90,000 Ford Mustang GT-R (ends May 25th)
 
I love Codemasters, they make such fun driving games. If you've ever played Colin McRae and TOCA/DTM Driver series, you know what I'm talking about.

http://www.codemasters.com/games/upl...ages/grid2.jpg
http://www.codemasters.com/games/upl...ages/grid3.jpg
http://www.codemasters.com/games/upl...ages/grid4.jpg
http://www.codemasters.com/games/upl...ages/grid5.jpg

I think this might be the first game to feature Milan as a circuit in a racing game... or any game for that matter.


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GRID™ Is all about the race- that period from lights to flag; full of tension, pressure, noise, and action.

GRID will take players to beautifully realised and dramatic race locations over three continents to compete in an unprecedented variety of racing events. Packed with the most powerful race cars – new and classic, circuit and drift – players will compete to conquer the most prestigious official race tracks and championships and then go beyond to compete in challenging city-based competitions, through to road events and urban street races.

In Europe, race gamers will compete on the greatest official tracks in prestige Marques including Aston Martin, Koenigsegg and Pagani. Iconic cities across the U.S. – including San Francisco, Washington DC and Detroit and each with their own atmosphere and events – play hosts to diverse street races. Here, high-performance V8 muscle cars set the pace in aggressive closely fought pack competitions.

In the Far East, Japanese racing culture sets the tone where night races, including Drift racing, take drivers through neon illuminated cities and to outlying mountain roads. There is also the opportunity to compete in races that operate on the fringes of legality in the back streets and industrial areas of Yokohama.

GRID is coming mid 2008 for the Xbox®360, PLAYSTATION®3 system and Games for Windows®.

ViperASR 12-04-2007 09:39 PM

I might look into that if it has some race tracks on it (not street circuits)

acmarttin 12-05-2007 01:57 AM

Mmmm.... I'll be busy playing GTA4.

But at least I'll have time to find out if it's good or not :)

5vz-fe 12-05-2007 02:23 AM

With Forza 2 and GT5P, I really don't think there's much room for this game unless it has something special (but from the looks of it, nada)

blue8 12-05-2007 11:12 AM

I hope it's similar to Forza 2 / GT5 P or even PGR4 but for the PC. There aren't any realistic racing games for the PC that I know of. Looks nice!

HeilSvenska 12-05-2007 02:23 PM

As long as it feels like TOCA Race Driver series, you'll have more fun than GT5...maybe. I thought driving physics for TOCA 2 was so much more fun than GT4 without being ridiculous. I just hope that they don't have the career mode as the only mode like TOCA, though.

RC45 12-05-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blue8 (Post 807321)
I hope it's similar to Forza 2 / GT5 P or even PGR4 but for the PC.

This statement,

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Originally Posted by blue8 (Post 807321)
There aren't any realistic racing games for the PC that I know of. Looks nice!

...cannot logically preced this statement.

Forza2/PGR4 and even GT5 are no where near as "realistic" as the realistic PC sims. They may "look better' (subjectively)a and they may "play simpler and funner" - bu tthey ar enot more realistic ;)

...and the modern NFS PC titles do not qualify as "almost realistic".. ;)

The realistic titles are the legendary GP Legends (and derivatives), GTR (and derivatives) and rFucke.. I mean rFactor (and derivatives) etc etc.

HeilSvenska 12-05-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RC45 (Post 807342)
The realistic titles are the legendary GP Legends (and derivatives), GTR (and derivatives) and rFucke.. I mean rFactor (and derivatives) etc etc.

Yup. And I can't say that I've ever had "fun" playing those games. They're cool and all, but can get really frustrating. NFS series is a joke, and the rest are still not realistic.

HeilSvenska 02-19-2008 08:56 PM

Trailer. They don't say much about the actual product, but still looks good.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30610.html

xbeakerx 02-19-2008 10:10 PM

awesome looking game...

enzoferrari 02-19-2008 10:22 PM

I'll try this out on my PC,thats 4 sure,It looks awesome,and it has the cars that I like.

79TA 02-19-2008 10:24 PM

Grid is supposed to use the same engine as Dirt so it should be pretty realistic.

toffytofik 02-20-2008 06:51 AM

Excuse me, but if we talk about realistic games:

- all that Codemasters develops (CMR, Toca) is in fact... crap. (read: arcadish).
- all the "realistic" games from PS (GT4/5, Forza) are in fact... crap (read: arcadish).
- all of the ISI and SimBin developed simulators (GPL, GTR/GTR2, Race WTCC/Race 2007, rTractor) are realistic but their physics aren't any good.

The only realistic racing simulator with great physics and tire model is on PC and that is Live For Speed. I'm surprised no one knows about it.
netKar Pro (PC) is another sim featuring good physics and tire model, but the development is on halt.
Richard Burns Rally (PC) has decent physics and by far the only real rally simulator available on the market.

Sapetoku 02-20-2008 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by toffytofik (Post 818377)
Excuse me, but if we talk about realistic games:

- all that Codemasters develops (CMR, Toca) is in fact... crap. (read: arcadish).
- all the "realistic" games from PS (GT4/5, Forza) are in fact... crap (read: arcadish).
- all of the ISI and SimBin developed simulators (GPL, GTR/GTR2, Race WTCC/Race 2007, rTractor) are realistic but their physics aren't any good.

The only realistic racing simulator with great physics and tire model is on PC and that is Live For Speed. I'm surprised no one knows about it.
netKar Pro (PC) is another sim featuring good physics and tire model, but the development is on halt.
Richard Burns Rally (PC) has decent physics and by far the only real rally simulator available on the market.

Live for Speed is indeed very very good! I'm having a hard time looking at the GT/Forza series as realistic, they're fun on a PSx or XBOX but that's it, nowhere near as good as LFS. If you have a good steering wheel, preferably with three pedal set and two spare joysticks (one for e-brake and one - preferably a vibrating one - to change gears) Live for Speed is the ultimate driving game, although Richard Burns Rally is very good as well, just another format. Another good rally game is Rally Trophy, it's abit old but still very good!
rFactor is good as well, only downside is the desperate need for add-ons if you really want to enjoy this game.
And BTW comparing PS1/2/3 or XBOX games - as I just did - to PC driving games is quite difficult and may even be pointless :)

This being said, I can't wait to play this GRID game, it does look fantastic!

HeilSvenska 02-20-2008 01:30 PM

Live for Speed eh? Well. It might sound shallow, but I like games with real life cars in them. GRID is obviously not trying to be realistic as a racing sim, but Codemasters stuff are pretty realistic-ish for an arcady game. In fact, it's probably more fun than a sim. Racing sims are awesome, but they can be very tiring (I don't think I can play any of the SimBin stuff for more than a week). I remember in Colin McRae games where you can just do insane lurid slides on dirt around corners just for fun, not realistic, but fun. I dunno. It's just me. Besides, it'll be worlds better than anything EA can cook up.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1...2130np4.th.jpg

RC45 02-20-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by toffytofik (Post 818377)
Excuse me, but if we talk about realistic games:

- all that Codemasters develops (CMR, Toca) is in fact... crap. (read: arcadish).
- all the "realistic" games from PS (GT4/5, Forza) are in fact... crap (read: arcadish).
- all of the ISI and SimBin developed simulators (GPL, GTR/GTR2, Race WTCC/Race 2007, rTractor) are realistic but their physics aren't any good.

The only realistic racing simulator with great physics and tire model is on PC and that is Live For Speed. I'm surprised no one knows about it.
netKar Pro (PC) is another sim featuring good physics and tire model, but the development is on halt.
Richard Burns Rally (PC) has decent physics and by far the only real rally simulator available on the market.

We all know about LFS and NKP - but as has been said, even if LFS is "real' (which its not) it is pretty stupid that after all these years theystill have crappy imaginary cars and have never bothered to take the title properly mainstream.

Sadly I paid for their product,a nd it really has not progressed much in the last 2 years at all.

RBR is no better than the IS engine based stuff sorry to say.

I do however fear that GRID will be a more "drift" than "shift" ;)

toffytofik 02-20-2008 03:32 PM

^
Imaginary cars and tracks doesn't bother majority of people playin' it anyway as long as they get the right feel of the car while racing each other online. That's the fun of LFS which made it the most popular racing sim so far.

RBR's engine isn't that good indeed, but yet it covers some basic aspects of rallying pretty decently. I mentioned it just because there's no better rally sim. If there would be, be sure i'd forgot what RBR is.

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
It might sound shallow, but I like games with real life cars in them. GRID is obviously not trying to be realistic as a racing sim, but Codemasters stuff are pretty realistic-ish for an arcady game. In fact, it's probably more fun than a sim. Racing sims are awesome, but they can be very tiring (I don't think I can play any of the SimBin stuff for more than a week). I remember in Colin McRae games where you can just do insane lurid slides on dirt around corners just for fun, not realistic, but fun. I dunno. It's just me. Besides, it'll be worlds better than anything EA can cook up.

Vice versa in my case. I sometimes play these racing games too, they're very appealing visually, but somehow i usually get bored before i even complete 'em. I guess i'm spoiled by simulators, lol.

Anyway, i guess that doesn't really matter what games we play untill we enjoy them and have our fun.

HeilSvenska 02-20-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by toffytofik (Post 818422)
Anyway, i guess that doesn't really matter what games we play untill we enjoy them and have our fun.

In the end, yes. That is why we play games: to have fun. ;-)

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Originally Posted by RC45 (Post 818403)
I do however fear that GRID will be a more "drift" than "shift" ;)

Yeah. I was disappointed that they included drifting, but I guess when you're making a mass selling street racing game these days, you have to have it in there somehow. It'll still be fun. :-P

acmarttin 02-20-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 818445)
In the end, yes. That is why we play games: to have fun. ;-)



Yeah. I was disappointed that they included drifting, but I guess when you're making a mass selling street racing game these days, you have to have it in there somehow. It'll still be fun. :-P

I agree completely, man. If I wanted to be challenged and frustrated all the time I'd take up ballroom dancing. Most of the time when I'm on my couch playing games it's because I'm trying to wind down from my day.

HeilSvenska 03-12-2008 06:32 PM

It looks like GRID doesn't want to make things too serious, but that doesn't mean that it can't have lots of awesome features.

Here's what I've gathered so far.

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Real circuits
  • Belgium: Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps
  • France: Circuit de la Sarthe
  • Germany: Nürburgring (GP-Strecke)
  • Spain: Circuito Permanente del Jarama
  • Turkey: Istanbul Park
  • United Kingdom: Donington Park Circuit
Fantasy tracks


USA
  • Detroit
  • San Francisco
  • Washington DC
Japan
  • Shibuya District, Tokyo
  • Yokohama docks
  • Haruna mountain road from the Initial D film (shudders)
Italy
  • Milan
Production cars
  • Dodge Challenger
  • Hennessey Venom
  • Pagani Zonda
  • Plymouth 'Cuda
Race cars
  • Aston Martin DBR9
  • BMW 320si WTCC
  • Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 Race Car (?)
  • Chevrolet Corvette C6R
  • Chevrolet Lacetti WTCC
  • Ferrari F430 GT
  • Ford Boss 302 Mustang
  • Koenigsegg CCGT
  • Lola B06/10 LMP2 Chamberlain-Synergy Motorsport (?)
  • Mazda 787B
  • Nissan 350Z drift
  • Nissan Silvia S15 drift
  • Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 drift
  • Porsche 911 GT3 RSR (996)
  • Saleen S7R
  • Subaru Impreza drift
Misc.
  • Chevrolet Camaro Concept
  • Ford Mustang GTR Concept
Gameplay
  • EGO Engine - based on NEON engine
  • No customization
  • Car damage
  • Drifting - sophisticated scoring system, likened to D1 GP's.
  • Officially licensed 24 Heures du Mans - won't take 24hrs. (24 minutes?) Time of day rendering
  • Flashback - give you ability to recover from a crash by going back in time to prevent it. (?!!!?!?!!!)


enzoferrari 03-12-2008 09:19 PM

Im waiting for that game!

rwd-freak 03-15-2008 07:00 AM

I only have one problem with Live for Speed... It is so perfect, that everything else, even GTR2 feels like a cheap arcade game.

But back to topic. The screenshots look realy cool and the car list is awesome, maybe a bit short, but if every car really behaves different (and a bit more realistic than Race Driver 3), it should be enough to have much fun.

HeilSvenska 03-15-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rwd-freak (Post 821901)
But back to topic. The screenshots look realy cool and the car list is awesome, maybe a bit short

It's not a complete list. ;-)

enzoferrari 03-15-2008 03:50 PM

is that an MC12 in the 3 pic???

HeilSvenska 03-15-2008 04:17 PM

Nope. S7R. Who knows, they might have one in the game.

HeilSvenska 03-19-2008 03:15 PM

I need a new computer NOW!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32013.html

Pokiou 03-19-2008 09:53 PM

i think the milan circut was also used in Grand Turismo 2 ???

RC45 03-20-2008 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 822587)
I need a new computer NOW!

PS3 ;)

79TA 03-20-2008 01:35 AM

Holy cow this game looks great. Hopefully the Dirt physics engine translates well to tarmac surfaces.

HeilSvenska 04-14-2008 04:38 PM

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32539.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32753.html

There's a rumor that the game will be locked at 30fps. If that's true, I hope that's only for the console version, and stay uncapped for the PC. :-(

This is probably from a PC. And it looks like the replay cam programmer comes from the Michael Bay school of cinemaphotography.

But it gets Long Beach as a track!

knigh7 04-26-2008 02:08 PM

Same Company made D.I.R.T
And After I played D.I.R.T I'm definitely buying G.R.I.D.

MidEngine4Life 04-26-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by knigh7 (Post 827835)
Same Company made D.I.R.T
And After I played D.I.R.T I'm definitely buying G.R.I.D.

Ditto :thumbup:

HeilSvenska 04-29-2008 05:50 PM

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33397.html

This certainly is a plus, but I've been reading bad things about it. Hopefully, that won't be the case.

RC45 04-29-2008 07:04 PM

Notice how the cars seemed to be sliding everywhere.

I think this game is going to be visually stunning, but a little too arcadey for most o fus. It may still turn out to be heaps of fun though.

HeilSvenska 05-08-2008 07:48 PM

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7908/13285437av8.jpg
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A Ford Mustang GT-R is Up for Grabs as Codemasters Launches The GRID Playable Demo

The top five players will receive an all expenses-paid trip to the GRID launch party and a chance to win the eBay Motors Mustang GT-R.
http://www.codemasters.com/press/?showarticle=11656
Technically, it'd be the only road-legal Mustang GT-R in existance.

So, how this works. Go home (unless you're home already), and download the GRID demo on your 360 (today) or PS3 (later this week). Play the eBay Motors Challenge at the San Francisco eBay Motors Muscle Cup Track, which is a time trial race. Then submit your best time here, http://community.grid-game.com/win-ebay-mustang/ Wait for them to authenticate your time, and if you're one of the top five, you get to go to San Francisco, where you'll face off against the others for the Mustang GT-R.

The GT-R, which is supposedly costs $90,000 comes with the following.

-Supercharged V8
-445hp
-Side ported exhaust system
-GT-R body
-six stage custom pearl paint
-...eBay graphics? (Surely that detracts from the value)

Anyways, the competition ends on May 25th, 2008. So, not a lot of time left.

RC45 05-08-2008 07:58 PM

Top 5 hey?

I will allow others to dive my GT-R :P

HeilSvenska 05-08-2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RC45 (Post 829615)
Top 5 hey?

I will allow others to dive my GT-R :P

Or you can always eBay it (oh the irony) and spend the extra $90,000 on the Camzilla. ;-)

RC45 05-09-2008 12:07 AM

Downloaded the demo, played one time trial, 3 corners of one race and deleted the demo.

This a visually stunning title that has an even more crappy control than PGR4.

Again, the lack of a decent steering wheel for the XB360 shines through.

This game is aimed squarely at the NFS arcade fans.

Steering with the control stick is an on/off thing, you are either at full lock or full center.

I will parlay my $5 preorder money into something else at GameStop - very dissapointed with the game.

Again, I say it is visually stunnign, with great replay camera angles and awesome smoke effects and ok sounds - but don't kid yourself, this is a "game" for the occasional player - not what I expected from Code Masters.

HeilSvenska 05-09-2008 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RC45 (Post 829659)
Downloaded the demo, played one time trial, 3 corners of one race and deleted the demo. ...not what I expected from Code Masters.

Worse than the TOCAs? If you've ever tried those.

RC45 05-09-2008 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 829660)
Worse than the TOCAs? If you've ever tried those.

To me, about the same,and funny you mention the TOCA series, because I traded a pile of games for GTA4, and had kept the entire TOCA series because I remembered thembeing so good - and when I tried them out before I left for GameStop, I realised that in comparison to todays titles, TOCA sucked hehe.

But I just tossed Forza2 into the 360 to see if I was giving GRID a fair shake, and the difference between FM2 steering input and GRID is night and day.

Maybe I am being hyper critical because of how spoiled we have become, and by all means still try GRID out, but I was not impressed - its one of the most visually stunning games ever - adn rivals GT5P for the level of detail - not photrealistic, but that gritty Quake4 style "realism".

Visually its freaking awesome - control wise it was terrible (for me). Seriously, GTA4 drivng input is more controlable and progressive than GRID - the Mustang GT-R needed about 1mm of steering input to go almost full lock.

HeilSvenska 05-09-2008 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RC45 (Post 829661)
To me, about the same,and funny you mention the TOCA series, because I traded a pile of games for GTA4, and had kept the entire TOCA series because I remembered thembeing so good - and when I tried them out before I left for GameStop, I realised that in comparison to todays titles, TOCA sucked hehe.

A shame. That's exactly what I was worried about. I remember TOCA 2 being so fun when it was new. :-( But. I dunno. I'll try it myself one day, if anything for that Mustang.

nthfinity 05-09-2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 829663)
A shame. That's exactly what I was worried about. I remember TOCA 2 being so fun when it was new. :-( But. I dunno. I'll try it myself one day, if anything for that Mustang.

I played NFS 5 (Porsche Unleashed) with my Logitech MOMO the other day.... and it's just as good as I remember.... just more blocky, cartoony graphics hehe

HeilSvenska 05-09-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nthfinity (Post 829664)
I played NFS 5 (Porsche Unleashed) with my Logitech MOMO the other day.... and it's just as good as I remember.... just more blocky, cartoony graphics hehe

:thumbup: That was a fun game. I remember playing the game as some sort of body shop owner who'd buy used cars, repair them, and resell them for way more than what I had spent on them. (very realistic even in that aspect) 40 car garage was never enough for me. :mrgreen: I remember being stuck on one of the Factory Driver missions, though...

Hopefully the game has features other than just racing to make it worth buying.

HeilSvenska 05-09-2008 03:04 PM

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/9...ed_050808.html
I just watched a video featuring the Long Beach track. I know it's a fantasy track, but too many things were displaced, removed, or added. I guess Long Beach wasn't interesting enough for the programmers.

RC45 05-13-2008 12:37 AM

Well - I gave Code Masters a second chance...

downloaded the PS3 version - I cannot believe that in 2008 for a PS3 driving/racing title there is no steering wheel support!!!

Even if it is the demo of the game - there is NO excuse for not having wheel support.

The PS3 controller is a little less jerky than the XB360 controller, but still - I have had enough of "controller" only driving games.

Very poor showing for Code Masters.

Again, a visually stunning title -but no wheel support is a very poor show.

79TA 05-13-2008 01:37 AM

I watched an in car video of the game play . . . the steering wheel is VERY twitchy. I also found Long Beach's innaccurate layout (not the track, but the buildings and features themselves) to be disheartening. I'll download it as soon as finals end this week. Hopefully, it's still a fun racer.

Vansquish 05-13-2008 11:57 AM

I downloaded the demo...played it for a bit and decided it was just about the most arcadey POS that I've driven in a very long time and that I can't believe that it's been released at all...

thiago 06-11-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 829665)
:thumbup: That was a fun game. I remember playing the game as some sort of body shop owner who'd buy used cars, repair them, and resell them for way more than what I had spent on them. (very realistic even in that aspect) 40 car garage was never enough for me. :mrgreen: I remember being stuck on one of the Factory Driver missions, though...

Hopefully the game has features other than just racing to make it worth buying.

I have that game but it's back home (NFS Porsche Unleashed), in Brazil, I guess I'll have my sister mail it to me to try it on my new rig. It's one of my favorite games ever. Crazy good looking graphics for that time (late 90's). I kind of lost interest in that game after I sold my Voodoo 5 5500 to get a Geforce 4 4200 Ti. The new card didn't have as good graphics (lack of good 3dfx engine support) as the Voodoo did. The same happened with F-22 Lightning II.

I'm having a blast playing GRID on my PC with the Xbox 360 wheel at 1920x1080 and a 37" monitor.

HeilSvenska 06-11-2008 07:37 PM

^Early 2000's man. Not early 90's.

RC45 06-11-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 835459)
^Early 2000's man. Not early 90's.

No, it was late 90's.


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