Blu-Ray vs HD DVD
 

http://www.thedvdwars.com/index.cfm

Sucks if HD-DVD wins cause Blu Ray discs hold more data..

I still think its too early to decide.. and definitely way to early to buy either players.

BetaMax lost... Blu-Ghey will lose.. ;)

Sony is good at backing the loser :P

Yep I'll be waiting to see which one comes out on top as well. Have you seen how expensive those new blu ray players are!!! Damn :o

isn't sony the biggest player in the digital disc format market?


if "blue-ghey" loses, i'll be very surprised.

selling Philips format discs ;) :P

cheap always wins out ;)

This is true in many ways.

so far blue ray sucks compare to hddvd

blue ray still using mpeg2 decoding

it has the potential to be better cuz it holds more dadta,, but thats in the future

and more movie on hd dvd then blueray

Blue ray is a dutch invention, just like the red one, so I want iiiiiiiiin :popcorn:

[quote="insane
I'd be very disappointed if Blu-Ray wouldn't become the new standard. I'd happily pay the extra price, however most people probably wouldn't.[/quote]

everything costs more at first, blu-ray just hit the market.


but based off the name alone i'd hd-dvd would be a bigger hit.

though in all honesty i haven't heard much of HD-DVD other than in reference and BLU-RAY has been everywhere. both in advertising and marketed producs.

Time will tell though i think whoever gets as many bluray players and discs out first will be the winner, no matter what the name or technology.

no
u can get a dvd player with divx capability for like 30cdn
LOL

That's it right there. . .

Yep true! :? :D

HD-DVD will win.. by far..

I haven't gotten to see a HD-DVD being played, but the movie I saw on Blu-Ray looked amazing. The sales guy at Tweeter seemed to think that Blu-Ray was going to win out in the end due to greater movie studio backing. It is definitely too early to adopt either one, though.

Don't care, I wont support either of them until the price is low :)

not reletively low

not low for what it does

real, and genuinly low.

no its Philips


Edit- RC beat me to it

Beta is still being used today by Television studios; it never died, it just went higher-end; and more expensive, and more limited

the results won't be known for years....the movies that are out now for either format are shit....blu-ray will take it since its got the most support and they'll sell 2 million + ps3s....
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=747

vs 10 million HD DVD?

who knows

I stand by what I said

It wouldn't suprise me to see blu ray become the TV tech standard; yet unable to win in the mass consumer market.

the sad thing is, people actually shelled out 600$ for a PS3 because its the cheapest Blu Ray on the market.... yet, sony controls the price, and will maintain levels to keep the PS3 wihtin a margin, until outside-ish forces force sony to drop the retail on blu ray consumer players...

initial launch for hd -dvd players was 100,000....blu-ray will kill that with in a month of ps3 release...toshiba is the only one relatively speaking making the players...it will not be able to keep up with Panasonic, LG, Samsung, Sony for developement, marketing or lower costs later on...Most of studios are behind blu-ray although a lot of them are releasing for both...bd is got too much backing for Sony to fuck it up this time

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Section-1...s/4/Index.html
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6394173.html

BD vs HD DVD
BD max bitrate: 54 Mbit/s
HD DVD max bitrate: 36.55 Mbit/s
And they use the same codecs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

Not really HD-DVD vs Blueray, but DVD vs HD -

http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html

Move your cursor over the image to see the difference.

link doesn't work

yeah
hd-dvd from that link
seems alot more clear

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-...yer-160688.php

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jh...technologyNews

LG officially announced it will develop a dual-format Blu-ray and HD DVD player, and analysts are saying that the company plans to launch the much-rumored device this fall. John Taylor, a US spokesman for LG, said

LG is a supporter of Blu-ray and is now considering a dual format player for later this year.

Last week, LG became the second member of the Blu-ray club that said it would also support HD DVD. The first was HP, which should be credited for having the presence of mind to be the first to decide to straddle the fence in this absurd replay of the VHS/Betamax wars.

Wow - talk about eating my own words here .. ;) :P

I guess Blu-Ghey is the winner for me.. ;) hehe

LOL!

Just had to be from you that RC, just had to be :wink: :lol:

Its different this time around and I bet they will both do just fine, I guess the real winner will be the first to offer a cheap mutil format machine.

I remember the "war" between dvd-r and dvd +r I think they are both still around right ?

Very true!

But what about Vcr Vs Betamax :lol:

I was talking to a electronics buddy of mine, and he concur with you, that he would not be surprise to see both format still be around 5 years from now.

LG and Samsung already have committed to making Dual Format drives/players. But how expensive will it be?

Well in terms of cheap machine it looks like HD has the lead on that right now. But we will see when Sony & Company gets a handle on production problems with the blue laser.

I am waiting for a Chinese Branded Blu-Ray player for $50 American :D . (Just kidding, I will probably end up buying a PS3 in a few months.)

Man I might be young, but I still remeber betamax, video cd (vynil video, quality was amazing), and tons of the other formats...


Its not that bad these days.

don't count on it

http://digital50.com/news/items/BW/2...ue-player.html

saw this on another forum

^ Right, much like the Blu-Ray Java Script problem on some disc and some players no being able to support it. I am sure that won't be a problem when the generation 2 player comes out :roll: .

Something that has to do w/ BD-J: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/409

And again, you are pointing out just because Sony say we will have 6 Million PS3s by March, that automatically means that Blu-Ray will win and that will be the de facto DVD player.

Show me how that is true again? How many people bought a PS2 because it played DVDs? How amny people bought a PS1 because it played CDs? How many people use it as their only entertainment system?

I still think the standard that will achieve majority will be the one that will introduce at a price point where middle class be able to afford it as a luxury item. Probably around the $200-$300 mark. Just as it happened with DVDs before.

All these companies are labeling their systems as an "All in One". Just like the PS3 is labeled as a "All in One" entertainment system. Has any of that worked? Has Window's Media PC worked? Has OS X's Frontrow worked? Did the Playstation 2 worked in that regard?

The answer is no, not yet. There hasn't been any system yet, that will satisfy the demand for everything. And I doubt the PS3 will fill that niche either. But again we will see.

Personally, I don't really care which one wins. I would prefer Blu-Ray because it offers more storage, but in the end, the determinating factor will be price. I just want one of them to be cheap, around $200 - $300. We will probably hit that price point next year.

That kind of sucks. I don't know if you guys have seen it, but the menu system on HD DVD is actually pretty slick.

I think the number of folks who use the "fancy features" will be few and far between..

You rent a movie, put it in the drive - make popcorn, open a soad and hit play.

Rinse and repeat for the next movie.

All we want is kick ass picture and awesome sound.

Yea, well, screw the folks! I always watch all the extra stuff and play with the features. One of the coolest is InfiniFilm.

Yeah - we wathc the features, but only every now and again, and really - taking an hour movie and turnign it into a 4 hour review ordeal kinda removes what little fun is left :P ;)

Yeah that depends on the person too. I never watch the specials. . . but my brother will watch the specials and the movie over and over again. Talk about getting your money's worth ;) .

shows how much you know the general consumer market.

OK - wise me up.

How many people do you personally know that watch every feature on every DVD they rent?

Lets hear it...

who rents... :o

its dl/burn or maybe buy....no one is buying dvds since they know they'll be obsolete whenever this HD shit is over...

and I've watched all the sw bonus shit...bonus features are big...at least the SW documentary 8)

So you are watching on the PC then, and using the "DVD Rom" features.

I am done with the gadget shit... video toaster is all we need ;)

Rent - watch - return. :P

what do u mean by gadget shit? :?

COnfigure this, upgrade that, download the one, unpack the other, re-image the next etc etc etc

I am tired of that - been doing it for 15 years and its a pain in the arse now.

I just wanna plug n play man ;)

just get your kid to do it...if u have kids :P :wink:

Blu-Ray declares Victory! Haha:


http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/b...y-over-hd-dvd/

the majority of those buying these dvds do watch the features. i'm not talking about your supposed movie buffs that thinks he knows what's he's talking about but rather the one who goes out and buys the dvd for use multiple times in his hometheater.


i'm sure the ppl your thinking about are just out to rent/watch the movie once for a quick "fix" and off to the next thrill.


so to speak....

Universal: No new HD DVD titles for 2007 announced

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/10...007-announced/

Ouch.. ;)

+1 BR - 1 HD