Impreza S204 vs Skyline Z-Tune vs Corvette Z06 vs Murciélago
 

There is a nice battle in this month's Best Motoring:

http://www.bestmotoring.jp/BM/200609/

What do you think are going to be the results?

My prediction:

1°Skyline
2°Corvette
3°Impreza
4°Murcielago

Wow, looks like a good episode.

Too bad bigfoot is down. Does anyone know of another site to torrent it from?

Read the forum rules :wink:

:oops:

so when well we get to see the final outcome?

i need to know the track they are running on.

Hint: Best Motoring

Tsukuba

SO the high HP cars will struggle through the infield complex... yet the Skyline will somehow win as the Vette and Murci are mis-shifted and run without turning off the driver aids.

It's a rig.. :P

well for cars like that they need a bigger track period. tsukuba is a great track but way to short for those cars to open up.

Agreed. Regardless, that's where they'll run them.

LOL, it does seem like thats what always happens. The damn NSX alsways wins - LMFAO, thats funny.

Anyway, honestly I dont think anything is gonna beat that Z-Tune. The Vette can hang in straight line speed but thats about it. Skylines are some cold ass cars --------- Point Blank.

*And the words of the wise have been spoken*

The Z-tune has 500hp, doesn't it?

its straight line speed.... hmm... so thats where these lap times come from..

Leguna Seca
1:47.3 seconds
Nurburgring
7:42.9
Top Gear Track
1:22.4
Bedford
1:24.45

You talking about the Vette Nth?

This should be an interesting race though

I have a question: How do I legaly get this video in the US ??? Are they sold out of any retail stores??

I'd like to get my hands on them.

thanx

I think that they only sell those DVDs in Japan, buy maybe one day, Best Motoring International could include that battle in one of their DVDs.

damn, well maybe I can order it direct from Japan :)

thanx for answering my question though

Does anyone know a website that I could order these "japan only" Best Motorings from. I have all the standard BMI's released in the US but these look awesome.

I dont mind not being able to understand the language. I just want a a website I can use to order them and get them shipped from Japan.

I tried J-list but, apparently, they dont carry Best Motoring

In regards to the track, they've taken the cars to Fuji Speedway a few times as well, so hopefully that's where they'll be taking these.

AWWW SHIT!! You know what I mean. I love the vette with all my heart, and I know what it can do, but In the corners I dont believe any of those cars can touch the Z-Tune. Remember, the stock R34 Skyline GT-R broke 8 mins at the ring with only 330 hp (not bad for a 3600+lb car). The Z-tune, has more power, less wieght, and more grip.

You should have argued the fact that I didnt say anything abou the Murc - the damn thing has all the power in the world.

Anyway, MY VOTE STILL STANDS - Z-Tune.........then Vette

Oh yeah, the Z-tune can also create about 1.6 G's in braking force, just in case somebody wants to know. :D

and here we go again, as soon as someone mentions Corvette....unbelievable! :roll:

Best Motoring has run the Z-Tune before IIRC, and it was surprisingly slower around Tsukuba than I thought it would be. I can't remember what it was beaten by, but I know it wasn't a car that I expected to beat it.

The Z-Tune is the fastest production car that BM has tested at Tsukuba

I agree with you, it seems that some words have to be avoided here :|

I will try to buy this one so we will clear this out :wink:

Alright I found the video I saw before finally, and it turns out that it wasn't at Tsukuba, it was at Sugo, and the Z-Tune actually won, with a rather unbelievable (literally) final lap pass of 3 cars on the final straight-away...

Here's the video -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...llardo&pl=true

It's up against an M3 CSL, E60 M5, 997, and a Gallardo in a 3 lap race. The Z-Tune was in dead last even going into the final lap, in 4th place going into the final corner, then somehow manages to blow by the Gallardo, M5, and CSL, and win literally by a fender as they crossed the line.

Propaganda at its finest...

LMAO - Everybody wants to ban the term "Corvette" and any derivative of it.

ROFL.......thats priceless

Honestly, we Americans are very quick to defend our current champion, the Z06. I have shot out my share of "so what do you call 7:42.9 at the ring" opinions also.

Ha, yall just gotta understand that we are proud to have such a good car that competes head to head, and beats some of the worlds best.

Its all Good............ And yes, the Z-tune is the fastest production car ever tested at Tuskuba. It beat out the Ferrari 360CS for the title.

Well it does seem like a setup; nevertheless, no matter how much I adore the M5 and CSL, they arent supposed to beat a Z-tune.

Anyway, it does seem like they play out those races sometimes. Although I do think the drivers sometimes conserve the car for the last lap or two. After all these are street legal spec cars, and they do have limits.

That was a little beyond conservation, and a whole hell of a lot closer to 'look at our pride and joy of Japan go!'. Watch the video if you haven't, it's literally the last straightaway on the 3rd and final lap where the Z-Tune suddenly overcomes a ~2 car length deficit behind 3rd place, then rockets past 3 cars in front of it to win by inches.

There's been quite a few races on BM that have resulted like that, just a little too good to be remotely true.

Actually no - you people are just being stupidly overly sensitive again... yet again...

Funny how EVERYTIME someone jumps to "defend" Ferrari you don't come out with the same type remarks :roll:

Nth was not "defending" anything - simply provinding some data to balance the "opin littered playing field".

Quite frankly the fact that some of you seem to think all "we" know and love is the Corvette is so fucking irritating and insulting it is beyond belief.

Some of us just happen to not see a reason to suck on Ferraris **** every chance the name comes up - like some other folks....

it doesn't mean we don't like or enjoy F-Cars, P-Cars or even Lamboats... some of us do see, enjoy and hang out around all sorts of exotics.. its just that everytime someone mentions the Corvette YOU people get all bent out of shape for some reason.

Maybe "we" should start bad mouthing Ferrari supporters everytime they "worship" the Prancing Horse ...

Unbelievable that "the Corvette" thing was brought up in a civil and balanced manner by the "Vette Crowd" - it was "the rest" that tainted the thread.

:roll:

Anyway, the fact remains that the BM team have a reputation for always having the Japanese cars pull unbelievable 'wins" out of the bag.

:)

Very true, RC45. People who are all about Ferrari are like groupies lined up to give brad pitt some sloppy head.

Lol, I can tell you from around the same area of the nation I am RC45. You get fired up, and tell everybody whats on your mind. Nothin like the South.

Yeah, I have seen the video many times. I cant say for sure that the race wasnt planned, cause it looks like it was. But, I would still think the Z-tune would win the bout. I may be wrong, but anyway.

Be careful how you use the word "South" around some of these sensitive types.. :P

no

its as soon as somone mentions that the Z is a piss poor handling car, but similar straight line speed; so i simply brought up lap times to use data to reiterate the point.

the fact is, its somebody else who brought up the corvette, and further even, the corvette is part of this discussion right in the topic title... I didn't even mention which i speculate will come first etc.

you guys can be unbelievable sometimes :roll:

seriously grow up people

can someone rip that next race?

I think you misunderstand me RC and nth, I don't defend more Ferraris or other exotics than Corvettes because I know that Corvettes have great qualities, especially the last Z06 ( I also love the Vector W8 ). In fact I try to stay away of the flaming thread even when the McLaren F1 (one of my favorite) is named.

My words were not against you or nth, it's just that, as you said, when the word "Corvette" appear in a thread, people can't help to start saying they are slow in corner/ fast in straight line etc ... and then you come to defend it and so on ... Bis repetitae

I hope that this wasn't for me because I never said this sort of thing !!! And I had many examples of your love for other cars recently :wink:

No it wasn't - I was just trying to soften the blow by including a "larger" audience.. ;)

The Z-Tune was the camera car in that race.

^^ So, in other words, it was a setup?

No, on the contrary the Z-Tune shouldn't have won that race (It did not have to compete), but the driver had different thoughts.

I'll be getting the DVD, ill get it ripped for JW if no one else does it first. Naturally I want the S204 to win. But I dont think that will be the out come. Its between the Z06 and Z-tune. Hey thats cool, its the "Z battle". I think the Z06 may grab the win actually if im honest. Just depends if the electronic diff can beat of the RW of the corvette in the corners I think. My beloved subaru wont win thought :( Iknow that.

Also BMI has kinda been making me think its a scam latley. Anybody see the hot hatch race? the meagan 225 was leading with ease up till the second to last corner untill he made a stupid plan too lose a place so he could draft?!?!?!?!? wtf. Anyway that result in the dc5 winning.

Anyway should be a good episode, even has a focus st in there :D

Hey Daggernite, I notice that you are in the UK and I was wondering exactly how you were planning to get that DVD. I'm from the states and the reason I ask is because Ive been trying to find a way to order the Japanese home market vids like that and have them shipped to the US but havnt been able to as of yet............

Any chance you could fill me in on how you get them?? A link would be much appreciated! Thanx in advance.

PS. If the UK gets the Japanese home market vids then I sure as hell wouldnt mind simply ordering them from some UK site if thats what it takes...........

Exactly!!

But as expected the point was missed because some people had to get on the offensive so quickly.... :roll:

Nobody can deny what we've stated, you guys will but its a hollow claim.

Theres one english site that sells BMI. But its the subbed version, not the jap version. Is the dvd in question only out in Japan? I was thinking of getting the english one.

so what exactly am i supposed to read with BS comments like the one below? the claim isn't hallow.

and what is your point? mine is obvious, and definately not aggressive, rude, or ignorant.

What do you mean 'camera car'? All of the cars had on-board cameras...

Well I personally can't wait to see this test! 8) I'm not too worried about the result, its Best Motoring, we all know they like the 'domestics' the most, its no secret. The preview looks fantastic and the sound of an American V8 thundering around the track is sweeet. :D

I watch Best Motoring for many reasons: the exotic & desirable cars they drive, the exciting bumper-to-bumper action on the track, the great camera angles (foot-work & speedo cameras), and finally the great sound capture of the cars they test. A totally un-biased opinion isn't one of the reasons, but it doesn't matter too much when you have all that other stuff...long live BMI! :P

WTF?

YOU are the one who brought up the issue of 'conflict".

So what's to deny?

YOU are the one who decided to call it the 'Corvette" thing.

That's right YOU.

No italic insunation here.

There was a Japanese guy on eBay a while back who had everything for sale - keep an eye out for his auctions.

Thanks for the link gangajas 8)

Will be cool to see that race when its available on dvd or the net!

Cheers

Not sure it's the same guy but the one I was buying mine on ebay can't sell them anymore for "legal" issues :? (His copies were coming from Hong Kong not Japan :wink: so I'm not sure they were copyrighted ... ).
So now the only way for me is Amazon.co.jp but it's more expensive. Yet, as the content is less interesting than before I didn't buy one since one year at least ...