More on the new V8 M3
 

The odd thing is, this is partially a repost. It was under the CTS Super V thread, keep up the good work! :lol:
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=37870

^^ haha.. yea right


you're just bitter because your TT cant do this:

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It looks weird with Chrome window trim. . . usually BMW Sport Packaged cars have black or shadow trim.

I don't know about new cars, but the old M cars all came with regular chrome trim, like the regular series cars...and shadowline was an option...

@ Everso : So now, I just want to be sure the sport model of the new BMW 3 series is called GTP or M3 ? :P

anyway its gonna be RS4 killer...

Only in BMW's Chris Bangle dreams ! :wink:

sorry buddy 335i ~ S4, M3 ~ RS4, CSL no Audi competition ;)

LooL.. Wait until Brembo reads this.. :lol:

Cant do what? Roll and squat on its soft underpinnings? :twisted:

I have some sad news for you mate, Audi quattro GmbH currently proceed some study test on a new Audi B7 RS4 "Plus" version available for late 2008. It's a lightweight version of the RS4 with DSG gear box and the best... a FSI V8 4.2L engine of 480 or 500hp ! Bye Bye future BMW E90 M3 CSL under every road conditions conceivable ! :prr:

Well, it looks like only the E34 M5 and E26 M6 had chrome window trim. Even all the old E28 M5s and E30 M3s all had shadowline window trim.

do you have the specs of the CSL ?? i don't think so, and clearly theyre gonna crash that thing called RS4 "plus" - still theres no match for the E46 CSL.
Seriously all the way the have to go to compete, the S4 is supposed to match the M3, but it can't it gets awfuly owned, then the RS4 (the past one) which matches the M3, but if it follows the order it should compete with the CSL... double, triple, cuadruple ownage !! and WTF is RS4 "plus" ? an attempt to match the CSL which following the pattern its rival should be an M3 GTR. which in other words should be Audi would get owned... again... whats next ?? "RS4 plus DTM we can't get more words in it but we want to beat the M3" ???

^^^ :D Interesting... :popcorn:

Ok so can someone help me out a bit about the M3 thing. I want to trade my G35 for something faster, I was thinking either Current M3, New M3, Lotus Exige, or GT-R.

Problem with GT-R is that it might be too expensive and overpriced, problem with Exige is that they sell them 3 hours away from here and to service it, I would have to go local to a toyota/lexus shop instead and I am really anal bout oil changes and services etc. and now the problem with M3's Current one looks Good, but outdated (like the G35's look much better) but the next-gen M3 is gonna be faster. Problem with newer M3 is that from what I see, it wont be nice at all (fast, but not pretty).

So my question is, E46 M3's are wider than regular 3 series? (or do they just have fatter bumper/tires?)

if BMW follow the tradition of making M cars very very similar (less grilles and badges) than its non M version, then I think the future M3 will sux bad in looks.

^So no Cayman?

There was an AUDI RS4 following it on that track but once that turn came up it just kinda kept going straight till it crashed into the fence.

M3>RS4
M5>RS6
M3 CSL>God.

LOL, just like the old days...

Source: track-challenge.com - The online database of SportAuto supertests.

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Funny all those speculations based on bullshit. But anyway, much is already said here:
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35509
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36719

I like BMWs, and i am in love with the M models. But i can say that i dont recomend the new M3 which will come now, becouse in a past fey years BMW gain a very bad reputation. The problems are electrical faults, bugs on first edition cars (E63, E65).
And the new E60 M5 has some problems i think its called VANOS. :roll:

But Demon i recomend the new RS4/S4 and of course a E46 M3 :wink:

If you like the new M3 wait a few years :wink:

I dont see the point in spending 70+K on the RS4 AUDI when you can get an E55 for barely much more. 8)

The E55 AMG is not so much agile, and my self i dont like the mercedes so much that i would buy it. Rather the RS4, or the BMW 645 :D

I just cant make myself buy something that looks like it was made 5 years ago. All porsches look alike and well... thats what makes me not wanna get one.

I like the E46 M3, but it will look outdated pretty soon. I really want a car that looks good (and 2 door also). Just like with girls, I rather have a sweet pretty girl and have OK sex with her, than one that leaves me breathless but misses a tooth.

Then get an M5. 8)

8)

Demon tell us how much money do you have in the budget. :twisted:

BMW 645?? 8)

Read: 2 door :wink: But that will be a great choice without that and money contraint

To be honest, I would suggest the C6 Z06, but I don't wanna start another war here. :D

:snipersmile:

:lol:

The corvette would be a nice choice, but its still a little plastic fantastic :roll:

oh oh oh, not 645 the 650 is in town 8)

Sure - plastic fantastic... 505hp stock, 700hp with cam and exhaust.

If that's you definition of plastic fantastic then plastic pwnz j00.. :P ;)

Pwnez no doubt, in my opinon i would still buy an M3 over Z06. Dont get me wrong i like the Z06, especially the exterior :P and i didnt saw a Z06, but if i judge from Top gear test, Jeremy said that its still a bit cheap plastic inside.
Its not a big problem..

M3(e46) for me rules, outdated?????.......no way :twisted:

Every way but highway :wink:

*Edit* Looks like the exige is not the greatest buy:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...tus-exige.html

Well Demon it seemed no one answered, but the M3 does have wider fenders and a wider foot. Mercs aren't anything special unless you get the new S-Class, and german cars altogether don't look to special since you couldn't see a difference between an A4, S4, RS4 unless you have some common knowledge on cars. IMO, i would get two cars with the budget you're talking about. A B6 A4 Quattro for a daily and strict sports car for the weekends. Maybe an older NSX, it isn't amazingly fast in the straights but the sound of the engine and the MR set up make it fun to drive and isn't that what it's all about. You can do all that for $50-60k depending on how many miles bother you on the NSX. Or you can go my route and spend $12k and build yourself a LSX RX-7. :D Or spend 17-18 and have someone else build it, you won't regret it!!
You could also go for an Cobra replica car which are a blast to drive with side pipes screaming in your ears, and they're eye catchers. You can find a good one for $30k in good condition.
If you want a daily sports car than i'de say get the RS4, M3 interiors are rubbish now and i can only handle so much uglyness. But if your smart you'll go all out and have a real sports car and relax when you want in an comfy A4 or somethin.

That's an interesting way to think about it. :)

But I disagree with you on the fact that you say the E46 M3 will look outdated pretty soon, if anything the new one will look outdated faster then the previous design.

I believe the new BMW's are nothing more then a test bed for the next generation of the BMW's which I think will look much better and much well thought out, and they won't have to be redesigned as soon as they come out like the 7 series did.

It was a big jump for BMW to go from the previous generation BMW's to the new ones, and I think we have to give them a bit more time for them to get their act together to design "the ultimate driving machine"

Yes, they have wider fenders and quarter panels.

The 7 Series was redesigned was on schedule. BMWs have a 7 year cycle and the facelift always comes after the 4 year. The E65 7 Series debuted as a 2002 Model and 4 Model years later, the facelifted one is out as a 2006 Model Year.

Humm.... I guess it just seemed a bit to early, since I saw the new one in begining of 2005.

What about a Noble M400?

Fucking American Shit box. :lol:

LOL dude, its sure plastic, but its a damn fast one....Its suposed to be match with the new Carrera.............in style, not, in the performance yes.

But the demon said that he dont wants a porsche. :(

nah, I was refering to the extra drag compromise for the added downforce that's all.

The Z06 crushes any Porsche besides the CGT and the 997 Turbo.

i guess lotusgt has not heard of mobydick or GT1.

and i am waiting for itsfun3 from qvarnis, it should break the cgt lap time at ring.

Obviously he's talking about the current Porsche line up.. and I bet the z06 could hold its own against the 959 although I dont know too much about that car except that its pretty dated by now

I dont hate the Z06, I like it, RC knows this. Im just shit talking him.

And so what..I like the car with style adn good interiour. You can mod the carrera to match the performance of the Z06 8)

^How much will that take again?

Not so much as the Z06, because the corvette has a bigger engine.

RUF R kompressor-435HP, 0-60mph:4.1s......I think its based on the carrera S

RUF RT12: 530 hp, 560hp, 650hp

Dani nice idea, but i like the V6 mk 3. :P , the mk2 is cool too :wink:

What are we talking about here? I thought it was about the E90 M3 :D .

I think I want the exige. I heard that you can have the dealership install a turbo in it. Supposedly 4.3 seconds. Im guessning Cayman would beat the exige only in top speed right?

Man if you park both side by side, I bet more people will look at the exige. IT just looks sooo damn awesome. Friends of mine thought they costed like 80K$ instead of 53.

Ups my mistake, i meant mk2 V6. Its based on a mk3 Clio, that i meant... :roll: