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redbaron 11-21-2005 01:13 PM

Wiesmann GT with BMW V10??
 
I just read this on www.autoweek.nl. I babelfished it to make it more readable for the non dutchies.

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Wiesmann is negotiating with BMW concerning V10 of the BMW M5. This will get an accommodation in the GT. Also to come a clubSport version. The Wiesmann GT are provided with of BMW originating 4,8-liter V8 with 367 pk.

BMW are now to for negotiating to get strong V10 those dienstdoet in M5 and M6 also the arrangement concerning the 507 pk. In the 1,190 kilo weighing Wiesmann this strength source promises impressive performances. When BMW do not want cede V10 to Wiesmann, the small German mark predominates screw a compressor on 4,4-liter V8 the this way evengoed a car with a higher capacity is able offer. Beside a more powerful version of the GT, is Wiesmann also busy a extreem light develop clubSport version of this car. This alternative has been in the first place intended for use on circuits. With which engine the GT club sport have equipped, it has been not yet confessed. First of all Wiesmann work for Right-sent version of the GT so that it is obtained also in Japan, Great Britain and Australia foot to the ground. At the moment at Wiesmann in Dülmen moreover it is very worked for the construction of an extra factory hall. Next year is produced according to planning 160 Wiesmanns. If the extension is ready, and the factory on full goes for a ride twists, there is a maximum capacity of 300 stuks per year.
For those who lived in a cave for a while: this is the Wiesmann GT:
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/14714.jpg
Just imagine, a Wiesmann GT V10 CSL :twisted:

stmoritzer 11-21-2005 01:26 PM

awesome, thanks for the article

Pehtren 11-21-2005 02:52 PM

no not the bmw V10 in it :lol: joke

cool it would be too fast, and i hope the car would sound like the M6 :D

thx

Sir_GT 11-21-2005 04:20 PM

I saw that car at MPH05 (Clarkson's motor show) and it's quite a unique looking car. Not beautiful, but definitely full of character. It would look pretty wicked at the stop lights, because nothing else looks like it.

chest3r 11-22-2005 01:38 PM

It would be nice to see this beautiful car with that amazing engine :o





PS: 1000 posts!!! 8)

Z3uS 11-22-2005 05:54 PM

This car is very beautiful and with an engine like this it would rock! :mrgreen:

ferrarif1fan89 11-22-2005 06:25 PM

god, that is a great looking car! and the v10.....what can i say that hasnt already been said?

SilviaEvo 11-22-2005 10:04 PM

i love it. and this would make me love it even more

martin100 11-23-2005 10:06 AM

I also think the Wiesmann looks stunning and is very rare (i´ve never seen any Wiesmann on German streets so far) and this engine will make it even better.

dutchmasterflex 11-23-2005 07:33 PM

I think every car manufacture needs to use the BMW V10 :)

gobs3z 11-24-2005 12:58 PM

Am i the only one that thinks they should have nevers strayed away from the M3's straight six? A perfect british retro design link with a perfect straight six, why ask for more. It's the feeling you get when you drive through the turns and the sound that goes along with it, and not just the acceleration. I'll honestly be disappointed if they do it!

JoeHahn 11-24-2005 08:46 PM

I would love for a car maker to put the BMW V10 into a mid-engined lightweight but I guess this will be as close as it gets.

redbaron 11-25-2005 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gobs3z
Am i the only one that thinks they should have nevers strayed away from the M3's straight six? A perfect british retro design link with a perfect straight six, why ask for more. It's the feeling you get when you drive through the turns and the sound that goes along with it, and not just the acceleration. I'll honestly be disappointed if they do it!

I do agree with you at some level. The balance with the straight six seems to be perfect and using a V10 could ruin it. However the Coupe is more stiffer and should be able to handle more power. I like the idea of a V10 more than the alternative, the 4.4 V8 with a compressor. Maybe they must wait for the V8 of the new M3, which I.M.O will be the perfect engine for this concept.

gobs3z 11-25-2005 09:15 PM

It's not just the fact that it'll be weighty with a V-10, but whats the purpose of having that much power in this lightweight car. And who has the right to put a V-10 in a British look-a-like car, it'snot right. The straight six in British cars is the perfect, and has heritage to it. Especially since the TVR's main engine is a straight 6. Speed isn't everything, but the feeling you get when you hear the engine and turn into the apex is everything.

sledgeham 11-25-2005 10:07 PM

i think the car looked a bit weird.. but from what i've seen on top gear.. the car is ridiculously fast.. and these guys are thinking of using an M5's engine?! its torque would probably shred the car
that wud be overdoing it i think..

sads 11-29-2005 03:51 AM

I think the V10 (although good for say a race car setup) may actualy be overkill can you imagine driving it in the wet even with TCS on one word .....DEAD
I like the idea of a V8 in it though

RF1 05-26-2006 05:02 PM

2006 Wiesmann GT

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(From Wiesmann Press Release) The success of the Roadster concept is based on a successful synthesis of classic design and state-of-the-art engineering. This encouraged Friedhelm and Martin Wiesmann to develop a new, similarly fascinating, sports car on the basis of the Roadster, the Wiesmann GT.

The two-seater coupé celebrated its premiere as a production vehicle at the IAA 2005 in Frankfurt, to be acclaimed by the motoring experts.

Despite the suggestions of a classic design as a further development of the Wiesmann-Roadster it was a completely new car which was created. Basic data were gained from the Wiesmann Racing GT, which was tested as a experimental vehicle under extreme conditions during the 24-hour race at the Nürburgring in 2002.

Since it was clear from the outset that this vehicle would not only be optically different, but based on different fundamental data, from the Roadster, there was plenty of room for manoeuvre in the development. Starting point for considerations was the engine. This was to represent a new sparkle, come what might.

Since, as it is well known, displacement can only be replaced by one thing, and that is more displacement, thoughts quickly made friends with the idea of using a BMW V8 engine of 4.8 litres capacity. This made a larger engine compartment than the Roadster's essential, which consequently meant that all the dimensions of the Wiesmann GT would have to be oriented towards that.

Thus, the GT grew in all directions, compared with the Roadster: it was three centimetres higher, eleven wider, and no less than 37 longer. To take account of the rather higher fuel consumption of the larger engine, 10 litres additional fuel tank volume was provided, at 70 litres, to guarantee adequate range on longer journeys.

The challenge now facing the engineers was to convert the engine's output into vehicle dynamics. Normally, a larger vehicle also weighs more, which in turn adversely affects the performance figures. This was avoided by designing an aluminium monocoque, familiar from the racing scene. In this way, the increase in weight was kept within bounds, and at 70 kg was extremely modest for a car of this size. The bodywork is of lightweight, high-quality, fibreglass-reinforced compound material and in the familiar manner is also fabricated in the factory.

The xenon headlights ensure good visibility in darkness, and the rear lights, which consist of LEDs, not only give a clear signal but are also unmistakable as the hallmark of the Wiesmann GT even at night.

With a power-to-weight ratio of 3.41 kg/HP the Wiesmann GT is to be found in the leading group of sports cars. The low centre of gravity, the perfectly-tuned running gear combined with the bullish torque delivered by the engine, the optimum seating position for driver and passenger ensure unalloyed driving enjoyment.

The Wiesmann GT is an individual sports car with a classic design, which fits perfectly in the automotive landscape and which will capture its own niche.
*Engine: V8-cylinder 4.8 liter

*Weight: 2821.9 lbs

*Torque: 364.1 lbs-ft @ 3.400rpm

*HP: 362 hp @ 6.300 rpm

HP/Weight
7.79 lbs per hp

HP/Liter
75.41 hp per liter

*0-62 mph: 4.6 seconds

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7...x14405f.th.jpg

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http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/102...ont4192.th.jpg

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wonderful!!

thepest 05-29-2006 07:01 AM

b e A utiful car :)

Superb engine :) :)




I just found out that the weight is 1190kg :shock:

is this true, because 1190 kg and 507 hp v10 would be ridiculously fast. That's pretty much the power-to-weight ration of a MC12!!

dutchmasterflex 05-29-2006 08:39 PM

It's a damn shame BMW couldnt suck it up and give them that engine ;)

I don't blame them though.. who the hell would buy an M car when you can get somethin like this with that V10..

inso 05-31-2006 02:57 AM

wiesmann is owned by some bmw executives, that is how they get SMG2 and all the electronics they need from bmw.

V10 is not yet a reliable unit, i think when it is good enough wiesmann will get it too. And also all the v10s they can produce, go now to M5 and M6, sales are good.

Alpina had to stop making their Z4, because new M Z4 was on the same terrotory and bmw stopped delivering engine block for their 295hp conversion.

dutchmasterflex 05-31-2006 01:30 PM

Alpina was stopped by BMW?

Interesting.. makes sense though.

Crossing my fingers that BMW will get them a V10.. although its not like i'll be able to import one!


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