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Talk about a wrecked Enzo!
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nooooooooooooo! :shock:
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No "official" infos, but I guess we can safely say the driver can't be alive after such an accident
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Damn......one gotta pay the consequences of what they are doing......and it is a hefty price....
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when did this happen
wow... to break a carbon fiber car like that.. must be a very very high speed impact |
woaahh...........
Lets hope the driver is O.K......That is one huge accident. Im guessing that is a body part that is covered up in the 2nd pic? |
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what the fuck!!!! :shock:
that is really sick.. if the driver survived he must have been protected by the spirit of old Enzo what the hell did he hit?? |
:shocked!: Holy shit!!!
If the driver survived, it was a big big miracle :? It's really impressive how such an expensive car was totally destroyed. I don't remember seing a supercar destroyed this way.... I presume this was in Italy cause there's an ambulance with an italian license plate |
Definitely Italy
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:cry: that's the kind of sight which could make a grown man cry...
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I found more info's in a portuguese forum :wink:
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idiot, he deserved it!
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It happened near Milan early on Sunday morning, and unfortunately the 41yo driver was killed. :(
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Well, for sure we don't know what caused the crash, but we also know that in Italy the speed limit on such road should be probably something around 80 to 90 kmh and noway an Enzo would be disintegrated like that at "legal" speed. Given the fact that with such a car you tend to push a little bit, he was for sure going MUCH faster than allowed on that road. Luckily the only person involved was him.
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well he must of been going quite fast for it to end like that unless a tonka truck came along. even at 100 kays does not do that to a family sedan.
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Sad sight :(
If he was the only one involved in the crash? What the hell could he have hit....the sound barrier? I never thought it would be possible to obliterate a full carbon fiber car like that RIP |
er...WTF :shock: good thing no1 else was hurt
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Why have a opened this thread? :|
Sorry Stracing but saying that he deserves it is stupid :roll: I say fuck the car - the man was much more important, and the man who was able to make money to buy an Enzo have my respect. I think Ferrari didnt sell Enzo's to everyone. I guess he did couple of purles(word) and that smashed the car by the road so much :( |
That's a sad sight. In this case it's ok to say it was just a car.....someone lost their life. Not cool. My guess is that he got off-road and flipped it over a few times, especially with no other cars involved. Makes me think twice about how I drive sometimes. :(
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:cry: :cry: :cry: there goes another one, I feel terrible for the man and his family, but another enzo down the drain due to an unskilled driver. I guess when an enzo bites, it bites HARD.... so is that 2 RIP enzos" (this one and the fireball in texas?) I hope there isnt any more....... :cry:
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damn... my guess is something really unpredicted made him loose control or he pushed off his limits...
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anyone have a count on how many enzos have been wrecked/totaled. I know of maybe 4 or 5 that have had damage done to them. The most famous one being the one in Tampa Florida where the owners son caused $400,000 worth of damage to the car. I know of 2 that have been completely totaled beyond recognition. This one and the one that caught on fire.
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:( RIP to the man who died. i really am cerious as to what caused the loss of controll (besides 660bhp) crashes that look like this dont often take place below 100mph 120kph. and CF monicoques are rigid, but they absorb impacts the best when in honeycomb form, as its deformable. im not sure the Enzo's monicoque (or CGT) is honeycomb, or not. this is definately the worst Enzo accident seen yet, the fire was a loss, but this one was tragic. |
that's impressive :shock:
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Hey atleast it wasnt a Garage Queen. Still sad to see the death of an Enzo and owner :(
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nnnnnooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! :cry:
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holy shit :shock:
looks like he hit the bushes/trees on the left in the first pic .... RIP :cry: |
The tyre who apears in a first sight (near to the view point of the photograper) in the last shoot it doesn´t belong to an Enzo, isn´t it?
All crashes involving deaths are sad. The road looks simply straight to crash so fiercely. |
that might be the worst accident i've ever seen! it's terrible to hear that the man died...he must have going 150+ that road was dead straight!
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I just read off of Ferrarichat.com that the police believe the driver was doing 256km/h!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT WAS HE THINKING???? :shock: |
...i won´t name any names but i´m very very very sad about some statements in here and i think it´s NOT right to use such hard words regardeless how the circumstances were, and i´d like to invite those ppl to plz better think twice next time, it really made me sad reading such comments here on JW ... :|
this should be no offense to anyone and we all have our own opinion on things but plz think of his wife AND two little daughters - that said i do not know the driver in person but a buddy of mine from italy knows him due to his cars incl. that Enzo... i think i won´t comment on my point of view - just want to add that i could have ended up like this the one or other time too and i´m also married and at that age - am i a stupid idiot now as well ??? ... just want to hint that there can be other point of views :!: personally i´m sorry for him, his wife, loveones and especially kids but also happy that no one else was involved, period - on a sidenote i want to add that i´m still a critic of posting pics of a crashed car in which a fellow enthusiast died... :idea: ...sorry guys, maybe i´m just another maniac old guy but i had to post that bit of (hopefully) constructive criticism... |
holy shit :shock: 256 km/h on that kind of road :shock:
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very well said st-anger.
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Dani, a drunk driver doesn´t know what he´s doing but 90% of the drivers who´re owning such cars, or sportscars in general, definitely know what they´re doing and are 110% concentrated PLUS - they know about the risks, everything else is fate, but i have to admitt that driving that fast wherever is probably not the smartest thing to do :? but to discuss that in full detail we´d need waaaaay more time and i think u´d then understand my point "better" - better said u´d see it from another side... last, i again want to add that it could have been myself but as i said - to fully understand that it would take us quite some time.......................... |
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Fact is at the sort of speeds being speculated he could have quite easily taken multiple people with him, i don't care how concentrated or how much he knew what he was doing i'm pretty damn sure he was in the wrong. He certainly chose the wrong road, single carraigeway with white line usually indicates it is not the sort of road to push such a car :bah: |
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yeah i'm with ST and brembo.. i know i pushed the limits on some (very crappy, israeli) roads.. and sometimes you cross that limit.. and if things dont go right shit can and does happen.. now unless something else is in fault.. know your \ your cars limits... and if you have a track.. (like the one we dont have.. as motor racing is illegal here.. never was.. long story) take there.. but come on.. even then.. you wont go the speed limit.. but maybe you wont feel the "need" to take it much higher.. you know what i mean?..
anyway.. like brembo said.. RIP fellow car enthusiast.... :( |
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Second, there is a big difference between breaking the speed limit and driving over your ability. Given he's dead he didn't just break the speed limit, he's an asshat who didn't heed his own limits and drove over them on a public road. When you drive like an asshat on public roads its not just your own life you take in your hands. Take it to the track... Darwin has success. Theres no way in hell he was driving reasonable speed given the pictures, and in a single car accident its his fault, no one elses. I don't feel sorry for him, I feel relieved he died on his own rather then taking out an innocent. If you drive 10/10ths on the road you don't deserve a license in my book. I do of course feel sorry for his family. |
^^Excellent.. Hell no..
Smart enough to go to the track when driving at over 100 mph.. And smart enough to realize that 100 mph + on a 2 lane road is not right period yes. Even as Michael Schumacher you shouldnt be at the speeds this guy had to be going on a road that size. I care about the risk to my kids, my neighbors kids, the old lady across the street, ect.. Reasonable speed doesn't kill, driving beyond your abilities does and you have no place exploring those abilities on public roads. Nor do I, this guy, a professional driver, or anyone else. A little bit of speed doesn't kill, treating the road like a race track does. Its you that took the all high and mighty, that somehow calling the guy an idiot somehow makes someone a hypocrit cause they may or may not watch those videos. To which I called your bullshit. To which you somehow say I claim I'm perfect. I'm not perfect, if I was I'd think I could get away with driving like this asshat, I can't and neither can anyone else. Right from wrong doesn't change no matter who you are, whether you make mistakes, bad choices, or whatever else. |
Al, what does the dubble white line mean? this is a style that we dont have here... im sure we do, but not with that specific raod lines.
i am not with gray, when it comes to enjoying a video like Ghost rider, and GIS. i am, however with him when it comes to driving at speed (IMO above 6/10ths belong on a track) i enjoy a winding road quite a bit... but going tripple digit speeds is something i am unwilling to replicate ever again- not with my jeep. i cherrish life too much to be such a hooligan. anyway; definately owning such a car puts an entirely different perspective on things. my condolences to his wife and daughters. |
I think its the proportionality factor that got messed up here.
We do like the adrenalin of going fast (yes even on public roads) but how far will u push your car say in a 60kph zone? Say 100. Of course, our cars are infesible compare to the Enzo. The Enzo should be double the capability of the cars we are driving at least, so he goes in 200.....nope....250 something. This is the part where I don't agree. The equation should not be linear, and there should always be a limit on how far u push it w/o proper safety equipment (like a racetrack does). One might say that adrenalin is cause by the car @ the limit and 250 is where the limit is, but 250 is clearly not the limit of the road. I do feel sorry for him, his wife and childern .... but that doesn't mean he's not stupid for doing such a stunt. |
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well said, both Espen and Al but i´m afraid this´ll end up in a "point of view" discussion with no result for this specific situation...
personally i have to say that due to my experience i see things a bit different for this specific issue than others would but well, everyone´s free to put in his personal thoughts... ride safe my friends.......... :!: |
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