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RAMMIUS 09-01-2005 09:16 AM

The best japanese
 
Personally I prefer the looks and performance of R1 , although I wouldn`t mind to own a Gixxer or an RR , the Kawa though too wild :?

What do you prefer and why ?

Honda_PoD 09-01-2005 09:33 AM

ZX-12R thank you :)


http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6852/14658005qi.jpg

maxbg 09-01-2005 10:31 AM

In my opinion, The best creation that comes out from the land of the rising sun is none other than the Vmax !!!!!!

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...vmax_red_6.jpg

20years and still going strong.

I have both the R1 and Vmax...... I prefer the Max over the R1.

RAMMIUS 09-01-2005 11:47 AM

^^^^^ Both you say ? That`s impressive man ! Congrats.

RAMMIUS 09-01-2005 12:20 PM

^^^ oh let`s hope RC45 doesn`t read that :lol:

Z28 09-01-2005 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxbg
In my opinion, The best creation that comes out from the land of the rising sun is none other than the Vmax !!!!!!

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...vmax_red_6.jpg

20years and still going strong.

I have both the R1 and Vmax...... I prefer the Max over the R1.

1198cc, liquid-cooled, 16-valve, DOHC, 70° V-4, shaft drive. Looks interesting. What do V-4's sound like stock and with aftermarket exhaust? I know the Vmax has power, but how does it handle compared to your R1? I am assuming you prefer the Vmax over the R1 because of the low range power.

corpse_grinder0 09-01-2005 05:49 PM

yeah im with dani, id probly pick up a repsol edition 1000rr

TransAm 09-01-2005 07:49 PM

R1 here 8)

maxbg 09-01-2005 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Z28
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxbg
In my opinion, The best creation that comes out from the land of the rising sun is none other than the Vmax !!!!!!

20years and still going strong.

I have both the R1 and Vmax...... I prefer the Max over the R1.

1198cc, liquid-cooled, 16-valve, DOHC, 70° V-4, shaft drive. Looks interesting. What do V-4's sound like stock and with aftermarket exhaust? I know the Vmax has power, but how does it handle compared to your R1? I am assuming you prefer the Vmax over the R1 because of the low range power.

The bike is actually conceived in USA with Ed Burke as the primary designer. The legendary V4 is designed from the Royal star engine with the internals modified for 143bhp with the trademark Vboost system.

The Vboost system kicks in at 6000rpm and above all the way to the 9500rpm redline. This is the time where a butterfly valve opens to allow 2 CV carbs to feed the mixture into 1 cylinder.The feeling is very close to a turbocharged bike. So to sum up, this is the only naked bike that has strong lowend torque and also dizzying top end hp.

I had a supertrapp installed previously and the thing sounds like like a Chevy V8. Stock 1/4 mile stands at low 11s to high 10s.

RC45 09-01-2005 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RAMMIUS
^^^ oh let`s hope RC45 doesn`t read that :lol:

That's ok.. we now know he is a Starbucks poser :P


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Originally Posted by bmw06m6
I've always had a personal stigma against Japanese Motorcycles; to me it’s always been a ricer with two wheels. Ducati and BMW the best of da best!

Oh

My

Gawd....


:)

You are obviously NOT a biker... if you had any idea that besides a few competition bikes that Ducati produces, the rest are poser pieces of crap ;) :P

The Japanese RULE 2 wheels.. period :)

corpse_grinder0 09-02-2005 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw06m6
I've always had a personal stigma against Japanese Motorcycles; to me it’s always been a ricer with two wheels. Ducati and BMW the best of da best!

*mental note*- disregard any post by anyone who uses the word "da".

RAMMIUS 09-02-2005 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC45
Quote:

Originally Posted by RAMMIUS
^^^ oh let`s hope RC45 doesn`t read that :lol:

That's ok.. we now know he is a Starbucks poser :P


Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw06m6
I've always had a personal stigma against Japanese Motorcycles; to me it’s always been a ricer with two wheels. Ducati and BMW the best of da best!

Oh

My

Gawd....


:)

You are obviously NOT a biker... if you had any idea that besides a few competition bikes that Ducati produces, the rest are poser pieces of crap ;) :P

The Japanese RULE 2 wheels.. period :)

RC45 I`am curios , have you owned a Ducati ? :?

maxbg 09-02-2005 09:54 AM

Hey Guys.... Check out the 2006 50th anniversary limited edition R1.

Here's is one with Colin Edwards on it.....

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...K-15YB-023.jpg

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...K-15YB-022.jpg

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...K-24YB-070.jpg

Specs :
YZF-R1 LE - Open Class Race Bike

At Yamaha, there’s more to building a race replica than a few stickers. Introducing the exclusive limited-edition 2006 R1 LE—complete with back torque-limiting slipper clutch, Marchesini wheels, adjustable rear suspension link and Öhlins suspension developed specifically for this model—all that on top of the standard R1’s `06 upgrades. The R1 LE features Yamaha 50th Anniversary Yellow/Black paint with special trim and badging.

* 43mm Öhlins custom-valved fully adjustable inverted fork w/ two-way compression damping adjustment
* Öhlins custom-valved fully adjustable rear shock w/hydraulic preload adjuster and two-way compression damping adjustment
* Gold Marchesini forged aluminum wheels
* Adjustable rear suspension bottom link
* Pirelli Diablo Corsa tires
* Starter button doubles as lap timer control
* 50th Anniversary Yellow/Black w/ gold chain, exhaust covers and tank emblems

Minacious 09-02-2005 10:02 AM

There really is no ONE best. This question will always be answered subjectively. For instance, I think the current R1 is the best japanese liter bike on the market right now (which is why I bought it), where someone else may pick the ZX10 or 1000RR as being the best in their minds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw06m6
I've always had a personal stigma against Japanese Motorcycles; to me it’s always been a ricer with two wheels. Ducati and BMW the best of da best!

This might be one of the most absurd things said on JW. This would and could only be said by someone who has absolutely no knowledge of motorcycles at all.
Good job.

TransAm 09-02-2005 10:12 AM

^ I ignored that comment about the jap bikes Min, but you took the words right out of my mouth

The 06 R1 looks great in the yellow and I can see me trading the 7R in next year, $ permitting!

Honda_PoD 09-02-2005 10:33 AM

well what company makes the most top bikes? (quality, speed, ride, etc. etc.) Not really sales but that does have a role.

RAMMIUS 09-02-2005 10:50 AM

That color combo it`s best I`ve seen so far on a Yamaha R1

Stunning :shock: :shock:

TransAm 09-02-2005 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mopar_turbo
well what company makes the most top bikes? (quality, speed, ride, etc. etc.) Not really sales but that does have a role.

All much of a muchness in my opinion

I think RC covered the following in a previous post:

Honda tend to be known for reliability and user friendliness, easy to ride.

Kawasaki tend to be known for the maddest bikes, the most HP etc. Not necessarily the easiest bikes to ride.

Suzuki have always been slightly cheaper to buy out of the big four, so I guess value for money might be a way of describing this company.

Yamaha make pianos. Go figure (That was just a sly dig at Min lol)

Seriously, Yamaha are good bikes, the majority of bikes I have had have been Yamahas. I don't really know what Yamaha's forte is though, I think they pioneer new ideas morer than the other 3 manufacturers though.

RC45 09-02-2005 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RAMMIUS
RC45 I`am curios , have you owned a Ducati ? :?

No - and there is a bloody good reason why.

I was seduced by the 851 when I was but a wee lad... but thankfully had a chance to ride one.

They looked so romantic circulating on videos of races and magazine articles full of colourful prose... one particular article about a Ron Haslem hosted Ducati day at Donington had be desiring one so bad.

Then the 888 stormed onto the world stage, and the owner of a specialist bike store I used to visit as a teenager added an RC30 to his collection of 1969 CB750, CB1000's VF750's and K1000ELR etc .

I saw the RC30 and we all knew what the perfect hand crafted motorcycle can be. But still ahd an eye on a Duc.

Then the day came and I was offered a ride on his 888SP3. I almost pissed my pants... here I am a sitting astride my dream bike.

Well - what a ride. Thrilling as no other, scalpel handling, grunt to spare - and as uncomfortable as getting an enema through your nose.

It was a brutal unforgiving bike ti ride. Everything I imagined a factory race bike to be. Oh - and it broke down 2 days that first weekend ;) In typical Italian fashion.

I have had various rides on Ducs over the years - including a much desired 851 and other than a throbbing ride of giant jackhammer dildo like proportions, they are really nothing special. They have the same poser value as F-Cars.. :P

They demand constant and expensive maintenance and attention - and they are not that robust - or reliable ;)

Ducati make some of the greatest race bikes the world has ever known, but their road bikes are just over priced coffee shop decorations... :D

gtx28 09-05-2005 11:47 AM

Even the newer ducatis? What about agusta or aprilia for reliablity or service/maintenance??

corpse_grinder0 09-05-2005 01:54 PM

ducatis, agustas, aprilias....... there all in the same boat. nice exotic motorcyles that require you to take out a loan just to do the schedualed maintance the next month after you buy it.

SilviaEvo 09-05-2005 03:12 PM

i dont know much about bikes but im in love with the R1

nthfinity 09-06-2005 01:52 AM

my favorite japanese bike by looks/performance... i would say the Yahmaha YZ 1000...

but by experience, i havent rident too many crotch rockets all that quickly, but a GSXR 600 was the best ive ridden, and god, did its accelleration feel good... (only crotch rocket ive full throttled). since i dont ride one often, its something i could see myself buying.

for sound, i love the Honda Superhawk... ~but still a Buel IMO smokes anything else in the sound department :wink:

TransAm 09-06-2005 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nthfinity
my favorite japanese bike by looks/performance... i would say the Yahmaha YZ 1000...

but by experience, i havent rident too many crotch rockets all that quickly, but a GSXR 600 was the best ive ridden, and god, did its accelleration feel good... (only crotch rocket ive full throttled). since i dont ride one often, its something i could see myself buying.

for sound, i love the Honda Superhawk... ~but still a Buel IMO smokes anything else in the sound department :wink:

Disagree on the Buell, lad across the road from me has one, it just sounds loud and crap IMHO!

Honda_PoD 09-06-2005 12:10 PM

you are right in both ways about the Buell, it has a deep sound, a muffled v8 (maybe) but it is a awesome bike. i love the way they are different.

nthfinity 09-06-2005 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TransAm2001
Quote:

Originally Posted by nthfinity
my favorite japanese bike by looks/performance... i would say the Yahmaha YZ 1000...

but by experience, i havent rident too many crotch rockets all that quickly, but a GSXR 600 was the best ive ridden, and god, did its accelleration feel good... (only crotch rocket ive full throttled). since i dont ride one often, its something i could see myself buying.

for sound, i love the Honda Superhawk... ~but still a Buel IMO smokes anything else in the sound department :wink:

Disagree on the Buell, lad across the road from me has one, it just sounds loud and crap IMHO!

lmao! i guess you're entitled to your wrong humble opinion :P
for something else the japs do will (and not available in the US for emmsions reasons) are those crazy 250CC 22,000 rpm rockets... not as powerful... but some countries have a graduating motorcycle licence process, and 250 is the largest displacement they can start on. those sounds are simply amazing... and non-existant here :|

TransAm 09-06-2005 01:31 PM

I used to own one, a FZR250R. Redline was about 17-18k. They arent very quick though... maybe 40-45hp

The 400's rev nearly as high, and you're talking 60-65hp...

nthfinity 09-06-2005 01:52 PM

yes... rockets the wrong word.. but sound great IMO

maxbg 09-07-2005 11:11 AM

Here's a link to the Yamaha Design cafe on the history of the Vmax. From Concept design to the Final product and 20 years later, the design remains intact. It's succesful in both the American and European market.

http://ymedc.introweb.nl/en/archive/...ustom-03.shtml

http://ymedc.introweb.nl/en/archive/...-03/egview.jpg

http://ymedc.introweb.nl/en/archive/...85leafleat.gif

corpse_grinder0 09-07-2005 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bmw06m6
Quote:

Originally Posted by Minacious
This might be one of the most absurd things said on JW. This would and could only be said by someone who has absolutely no knowledge of motorcycles at all.
Good job.

So a bunch of stickers and no exhaust makes something cooler, those who do like that seem to have no imagination what so ever. So put you "power ranger" gear back on and head to your local DNC HQ.

What is it with people who "actually like Japanese stuff" (From Lesux to Hunda, or even a silly little bike), always get so offend so easily? Odd?

I now realize I have been living a lie...... god I am so stupid.... alright im going to go buy a ducati, and NOT wear my power ranger gear (cuase thats only for the japanese lovers) and im gonna go ride. but the sad part is... I wont be as quick as the japanese bikes, since they are slightly quicker... and ill have to work alot more to pay for all of the maintance involved in my new ducati... and the guys riding jap bikes will have more time to ride since everything is more reliable and you can do most of the work yourself if you do have to do everything. Why havnt I done this already?!?!?! Thank you BMW06M6 for enlightening me personally. You are my Hero! http://www.socalsportbikes.com/xmb/i...ies/flippy.gif http://www.socalsportbikes.com/xmb/i...es/dumbass.gif

Minacious 09-07-2005 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmw06m6
Quote:

Originally Posted by Minacious
This might be one of the most absurd things said on JW. This would and could only be said by someone who has absolutely no knowledge of motorcycles at all.
Good job.

So a bunch of stickers and no exhaust makes something cooler, those who do like that seem to have no imagination what so ever. So put you "power ranger" gear back on and head to your local DNC HQ.

What is it with people who "actually like Japanese stuff" (From Lesux to Hunda, or even a silly little bike), always get so offend so easily? Odd?

Well what do you know, you are a complete idiot.

Those "Power Ranger" outfits, as you call them, are also worn by riders of your precious Ducatis and BMWs. I would also like you to point out which Japanese bikes have no exhausts on them. Then there is the fact that you think all Japanese bikes are full of stickers. That's just another point on your completely ignorant scoreboard. The first thing you need to do is learn how to spell when trying to make a witty reply. Second, get some facts on the bikes you are talking about, including the ones you supposedly love so much, and then come back and attempt, yes attempt, to have something intelligent and factual to say.

RC45 09-08-2005 09:11 AM

Wow - looks like I missed the real excitement the last week or so ;) :P hehe

TransAm 09-08-2005 09:21 AM

Here, have some spotted owl popcorn... :lol:

RC45 09-08-2005 11:13 AM

I hope it was popped in whale oil...


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