Bang & Olufsen...
 

What do you think about these music systems? We recently bought one and I can tell you for sure that all these years that I was listening to music in fact I wasnt. :P The B&O take the music hearing experience to a whole new level, its something totally unparallel. You can understand what I say once you hear a track from these systems. As far as their design is concerned there r times that I feel embarassed when I sit next to it...

Any owners of B&O?

i know it, also saw few TVs
but thats really expensive, please post which system you got, or pics,
also price if its possible

Well, my dad always had a B&O system since I can recall it.. always the same, he just upgraded the speakers some years ago, and not only the quality is top stuff, but the lifespan amazing too!

For sure if you have the money to invest in it and if you like to listen to music in the proper way, it is the way to go..

Still not easy to spend such amounts of money on such items IMO

as TT says, if u have the money to buy them theyre worth every penny, super quality, super looks, super price thoguh

Thats what Ive heard. :D

The system that my father bought is the Beosound 9000, and the speakers are the Beolab 5. A for their price... they costed much...

TT after how many years your father upgraded the speakers?..

Uhm, I should ask him to be sure, but probably like 15 years or even more. It is also true that he doesn't listen to it 24/7 and he didn't change them because they were broken or not sounding good anymore, just because he wanted another model to hang onto the wall wich suited better with the rest of the furniture

15 years?... These are great news man!!

Cant wait to have them installed. My girlfriend's father suggested to my father to buy B&O. Im really looking forward to it!

Oh and btw TT, who listens 24/7 music?... :roll: :wink:

Well since B&O comes from Struer which is where I have lived 18 out of 19 years, so i'm quite familiar with them :D And yeah, my parents and both my brothers have B&O tv, like half of the people living there....

Have anyone heard the new BeoLab 5 at full blow? I'm not the biggest fan of music systems but OH MY FUCKING GOD!!

Bang & Olufsens are great. They are fairly overpriced and have a big focus on style rather than out and out performance, but they're still really nice. The BeoLab 5's are straight up awesome, definitely one of my favorite speakers. Incredible power and accuracy in the bass, but I also love the incredibly wide soundstage thanks to that acoustic lens technology. And the fact that they're self powered... :D

With the exception of the BeoLab 5s, there are better companies to look at for the money. Bowers & Wilkins (as Brembo mentioned) and Meridian are the first two that come to mind. Still though, B&O is awesome. You're a lucky guy. How many BeoLab 5's did your dad get?

BW also make magnificent pieces. But their prices are very close to B&O. At least here in Hellas. Btw what do you guys think about Cyrus systems? We went to see them, their desig was veery minimal.

We bought 2 Beolab 5 speakers findleybeast.

I had a set of B&O speakers which I sold. They were decent speakers.

My 2 cents: B&O is some nice stuff, but the prices aren't justified. IMO, it's too expensive for what you're getting. Sure, they do some very innovative things, but it's not an acoustic revolution.

BeoLab5 stand out in my mind. Not only do they use top of the line materials and engineering, but they look f'ing cool. They definitely sound good (the BeoLabs anyway. I haven't heard the much else) but to pay that much money for speakers is not worth it if you're only going for SQ. (You could get equally good if not better SQ for a fraction of the cost if you really wanted to. It would just have less sex appeal, and have a more complicated layout).

So who would buy top of the line B&O? Very rich people that value style just as much as/more than they do acoustics. Their mid-line products blend into the market much better tho, and those are more easily justifiable.

Edit: B&W (makes Nautilus) i have similar views on, but i'm actually more in favor of them. They don't put up these chi-chi stores in high end real estate areas trying to sell on hype and image like B&O does. B&O i think is more successful as a company, partly cuz their image, but I mite have more respect for B&W. Honsetly tho, I don't kno enuf to make firm decisions - both those companies are way outside of my budget. :D

At my Hong Kong house, my family has several sets of B&O hardwares...we have the beosound system set throughout the house, and 2 tvs within the house...also the fones are pretty good too...rite now, in my toronto home, i'm using 2 of the B&O fones...meh, not much to say but looks kewl...i'm lately thinkin of gettin the b&o mp3 player, since i broke my iriver recently...btw i heard...urban legend or rumor of somekind that all the B&O products are just reversed engineered products from other companies, ie. crack open the shell of a B&O TV, you'll see sony circuitry inside or something like that....haven't done it myself but it could be...

My grandma's house has B&O TV and cinema system that has a whole combo magigi in it .. braaddyy awsome.. picture is crisp .. the sound is awsome .. i swear its like .. ahh cant explain..

u need to live the experiance to understand ..

Pok

You think B&O is good, try Linn. Top notch I must say.

nobody denied that there are better companies. Meridian, Krell, McIntosh, B&W, Thiel, Wilson, Audio Research, Avalon... there are many. B&O is still a hell of a company tho, and makes some really awesome stuff.

^ Please put me down for "Ditto."

One addition tho: those other smaller, less known companies get a little more respect in my book. Just cuz I like the underdog perhaps, or that if i own a more rare piece of art/music/high tech equipment...it makes me value it more. That's just my opinion tho. It's a moot point, and strong arguments can be made for either side.

I think it's smooth, elegant and good sounding...

But it's also very expensive, so I can't afford it..

B&O its good but i prefer INFINITY !!

i heard that B&O plasma are just basicley fijitsu plasma's with B&O branding and price tag..

Just out of curiousity who has the best stuff for sound quality forget about asthetics and price. What sounds the best. Ive heard very good things about linn, and harmon kardon. Jazz and Classical music seem to cover the widest spectrum of sound. Ive heard several musicians toting the bose sound wave stuff. Any input would be great

I have a pair of Bang & Oulfsen ear phones, i cant get over the sound quality and clarity. They are worh the high price tag, the sound really needs to be heard to be fully appreciated, its excellent stuff. They are coming on three years old, still current model and shape, they havent changed it...its great.

GTX28 - look at Findleybeast's list before. Any of those will produce superlative SQ - 99+% of humans will never be able to tell the acoustic differences between those companies.

Speakers will (more than likely) never be able to 100% reproduce sound that matches the acoustic wave patterns of things in real life - this is inherent in all current speakers, as they change an electrical signal to acoustic energy. Somewhere during that conversion of energy, there will be a loss of energy to heat, and some distortion. Good speaker companies (like those all listed before, and in the mobile audio world some of these companies: Focal, CDT, DLS and Morel) will reproduce sound that is so close to the original reproduction, the vast majority of humans will never be able to tell a difference.

In the end, for true audiophiles that can really pick out sonic details, the choice will come down to personal preference - NOT which company is the "best." Perhaps one day in the future with some crazy techology there will be perfect replication of sound, but as it stands now, the best you can do is judged not by the company you buy, or how much money is in your wallet....it's all about how well your ears can listen.;

If you want the best, no price too high, go for an all Linn system. Each speaker gets 3 amps (bass, mids, and highs). I beleive you can even run 4-6 amps per speaker if I remember correctly. Anyways, we've tested B&O, Harmon Kardon, etc. with the same exact CDs, and DVDs and Linn by far had the most clear sound (in stereo, as surround CDs, and audio DVD's loose alot unless they're channeled into 5.1 or higher). There was one cd I remember that had the 1812 overture on it and it had fireworks and bells as part of the song. In stereo, we could hear the fireworks explode in different spots, front back, left, and right of us. It was full 3d sound in stereo! Also there was another cd of Frank Sinatra and the rat pack. We could hear the chord slides on a Jazz chello, and the recording was about 50 years old. The sound on the Linn is amazing, if you get the chance to listen to it, go do it, it's an experience of it's own.

Indeed, if you want the ultimate, go with linn. B&O are damn good but have become more fashionable to buy for the name rather than the outright sound performance

For speakers its JAMO.

What a load of shit :lol:

3 seperate amps? Thats the funiest thing I have ever heard. I guess its the fad for rich idiots who just go for the price tag.

Since when is music supposed to be surround? when a band performs you are in front of them, they do not surround you. So when people talk about music and surround sound it just show that they are morons.

Full 3d sound in Stereo? What the fuck is that? You mean 2 monitors and a delay surround emulation? All you can get from two monitors is cheap emulation of actuall 3d sound, they do it by simple delays, you can never feel as if something is in behind you when the speaker is in front of you.



If you want the best sound from the good old CD(not dvd audio or SACD) then get your self a CD player build around the TDA1541 DAC, find your self one of those home made english transistor amps(none of that tube shit, another fad for wannabe audiophiles) and some JAMOs.




If anybody is serious about superior audio quality you can not just go out and buy the stuff from the catalog. You have to listen to hundres of different amps and speakers to find the best stuff.

Well "best" is a matter of opinion... when you've got enough money it's down to personal choice which one is "better" and which one sounds "best" for you.

Different companies generally have a trademark sort of sound but yeah, if you really want the best for you, you've got to try hundreds of combos in the same or similar settings to where your system will be

No we didn't go for the price tag. There are by far more expensive audio equipment that what we've got. First off you must not know much about audio. Our front speakers have five cones (we're running 1 amp to each cones), and our rears have 3 cones (so a total of 3 amps to each whole speaker). If you want a pic of all of our amps I'll be more than happy to post a picture if you don't believe me. The fact that you just mention a cd player, an amp, and a couple speakers tells me that you yourself are not an audiophile. The wires play a large role, just as large as the speakers, cd player, and amps. We have the wires matched to the frequency of each cone, so there is very close to no unwanted frequencys in each cone. DVD audio can be better than CD audio, but you have to find an album where it has been made for DVD audio, thats why it hasn't truly been accepted yet b/c 95% of the albums on the DVDs were just remastered. As for the sounds around you, yes it is possible on just stereo. The Linn system gives depth to it's music, compared to otheres where it's just that, stereo, a monoplane of music.

Ok there Mr "Audiophile" enjoy your setup. Your multy amp setup is some real audiophile sheet. First time I hear of an "audiophile" running a surrond setup for music.

Laugh out fucking loud! Wires play as big a role as speakers...... :roll:

You have wires running to the frequency of each cone AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

And WTF is that for my friend? They make some special 15-100hz, 100-500hz wires now? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH Its called a friggin crossover................

What are your amps frequency depended aswel? So you have a woofer amp, a high frequncy amp?.................lol


Your hillarious. And no I dont need no pictures, Ive heard enough.


And you have to learn to read too.

DVD Audio is better then a normal audio CD because it allows 3x the sampling rate and higher dynamic range.

Oh and as for sounds around you, read my posts again.

Thanks for making my day, I had quite a laugh.

Point out where I've said we listen to music in surround? It's setup so it plays music in stereo, and movies in surround. And yes wires do play as large of a role as speakers, amps, etc. If you have crappy wires you get large amounts of interference and unwanted noises, also different wires are better at transmitting different frequency ranges. We run a single amp to every cone, You should stop listening to your Best Buy "audio setup" and start listening to real sound, you'll be amazed. The only intelligent thing you've said. It took us about a year to get our setup to what it is today. We went to alot of different shops listening to different speakers, those different speakers each to several different amps, each to several different cd players, etc. Just b/c you want to sound like an audiophile doesn't mean need to post blabberings of what you think. Do what you've said and test many different setups as we have. Once you've done that, and listened to a well setup Linn system, then come back and start talking. Untill then you're the one who is making somebody laugh.

which system should i get if i want one dat can be so loud it will rip the clothes of a girl!? :lol:

haha, good way to end a "heated discussion." Good movie I must say, makes me wanna watch it again...

im quiet amused with the insults thrown at each other here.. look what ever sounds good to your ear i must say ... u can have a 10000000000 dollar setup and a cheap 200 stereo from you local market. if you dont know what to listen for and how to listen to music there all gonna sound the same ..

but i must admit my grandma's B&O is the shizzle keep it rizzle :P

Thank you all for your input im going to take a look and see what i favor. I tend to hear and notice alot more than most so i prefer higher quality equipment.

No offence bro but some of what he is saying kinda makes sense its simple physics. If the wires to each speaker are wound in a way that causes less interpolation, and feed back you have less noise on the line hense less static. If the wire guage and windings are carefully chosen for the frequency and feedback then your resistance will be optimum for the chosen amplifier. And if each amplifier is shielded from electrical noise i would guess that the reproduced sound would have greater clarity in that frequency band.

THx Ikon2003 for the input i will check out those companies from his list.

Sfdmalex I checked out some Jamo stuff looks like a high quality product sexy lookin too hehe. I will see if anyone in town carries them thx for the info.


Just out of curiousity, does anyone have any webbys for dvd sound, sound tuning utilities like whitesound etc. Also any webbys with definitions for the ratings on the equipment class a b c d etc. In mobile audio a class d amp is supposed to be pretty good stuff but in the home theator stuff it seems class a is the highest?? so anyhelp is always appreciated.

Amplifier rating classes has gotten a lot more complicated in recent years. There are still the most common ones - A, AB, B, and D - but there are new technologies composing classes G, H, I, T, X, and there are probably others. Many of those are essentially modified versions of class D. Wikipedia has a pretty good rundown of most of the amplifier classes here

here's a quick summary of the common ones
Class A - most accurate, but extremely inefficient. Too inefficient to use in many amplifier settings
Class B - Much more efficient than class A, but they inherent distortion and so aren't very well liked
Class A/B - A combination of class A and B, higher efficiency than A but more accurate than B. This is the most common in speaker amps
Class D - Output is just on/off pulses, no variation. Extremely efficient, but not typically accurate enough to operate full range speakers. Generally used only for subwoofer applications

time for this topic to take a trip to the correct forum :P

You are all a bunch of audio-video nerds.

The only sound you need is a straight pipe push rod V8.

Period.

You want music? Go for a drive.

When at home - screw the radio/cd/audio crap - pure silence and read a good book, the sound of children playing in the back yard - the clinging, clanking of dishes in the kitchen as family shares company - watch a movie on TV - go to sleep.. :) ;)

I never did get peoples obsession with audio systems... if you want the "real deal" go listen to a concert.

Don't even get me started on then stupid iPod draped idiots wondering around town... :) ;) :P - but that's another topic... :)

No offence bro cause your still young, but you sounded like my old man just then.

My first car was an 85 Camaro had a great exhaust system when i got it but no radio. I wanted to blow a bunch of cash on a new radio and my dad asked why sayin all i need is the sound from my tail pipes, and thats all i had for a few months.


Unfortunatly im not married yet so no kids no wife. So quiet back yard at the moment. That rules that out.

O and how come go surf jabbas world and find something to be creative and give back wasnt among your colorful gripes lol.

PS:RC did you get my pm im curious to see if your ok and what not????

None taken.. ;)

The only way to fly - no music and all pipes.. ;)

Don't rush it - sow your wild oats while you can... :lol: heheh

My bad :)

Yeah - sorry about that - I have PM notification turned off... heheh

Yeah - GM have bigger problems to worry about these days - things like staying out of bankruptcy court... :lol: -

hehhe don't forget RC, not all of us drive V8's :P some of us drive 998cc minis, which while nice sounding generally does tend to get a tad annoying at high revs on the motorway :P Its a simple choice, go deaf to a screaming engine or Music..... hmmmm tough one, so sometimes i NEED music when i go for a drive :lol: as for home just bog standard Samsung surround kit for movies, i don't have bat ears :P (cue audiophiles :P ) don't even have another stereo at uni cos i wouldn't be able to fit it in the car to go home :lol:

Thats cool bro, good point too. Not sure if youve ever known any Italians, but for some reason the family thing makes us snap. I usually have excellent self control but when it comes to threats and family I snap. So I was just checkin to see if you and the fam were ok.