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|Nuno| 04-06-2005 04:37 PM

F430 vs. Turbo S performance test
 
Props to rennteam:

This is TEST data obtained by AUTO Zeitung, a german car magazine which has friendly connections to Porsche:


Test track handling test

F430: 1:36,9 min.
Turbo S: 1:38,5 min.

Slalom 18m

F430: 68,0 kph
Turbo S: 66,1 kph

Performance figures

0-100 kph: F430 (3,8 sec.) - Turbo S (4,1 sec.)
0-160 kph: F430 (8,3 sec.) - Turbo S (8,5 sec.)
0-200 kph: F430 (12,2 sec.) - Turbo S (13,1 sec.)
Top Speed: F430 (316 kph) - Turbo S (307 kph)



P.S. Not sure if this is the right place...

Ghostbat 04-06-2005 05:02 PM

I'm assuming it's the 996 Turbo S! A better comparison IMO is between the F430 and the upcoming 997 Turbo.

|Nuno| 04-06-2005 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostbat
I'm assuming it's the 996 Turbo S! A better comparison IMO is between the F430 and the upcoming 997 Turbo.

Yeah, of course. :) We'll have to wait a little for the F430 vs. 997 Turbo comparison...

Ghostbat 04-06-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Nuno|
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostbat
I'm assuming it's the 996 Turbo S! A better comparison IMO is between the F430 and the upcoming 997 Turbo.

Yeah, of course. :) We'll have to wait a little for the F430 vs. 997 Turbo comparison...

yep but propably worth waiting for..

mindgam3 04-06-2005 07:27 PM

Considering the 997 S is about as fast as the 996 GT3 and that was miles faster than the 360, i suspect the 997 Turbo S will be a faster car unfortunately :(

ferrari550 04-06-2005 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindgam3
Considering the 997 S is about as fast as the 996 GT3 and that was miles faster than the 360, i suspect the 997 Turbo S will be a faster car unfortunately :(

Yeah i agree, chances are it will be faster. But the F430 will always be more desirable and the #1 choice for me.

ikon2003 04-06-2005 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Nuno|
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostbat
I'm assuming it's the 996 Turbo S! A better comparison IMO is between the F430 and the upcoming 997 Turbo.

Yeah, of course. :) We'll have to wait a little for the F430 vs. 997 Turbo comparison...

I agree, but nonetheless, I think this was a very interesting test. Also very useful for the people debating buying a new supercar - these are two of the most reputed names in the business, and not to mention fairly well matched. Thanks for the info

robruf 04-06-2005 11:01 PM

It's funny because a 993 Turbo is faster than them both, however, the F430 is the car of the moment until the 997 Turbo arrives next year.

Johns 04-07-2005 12:13 AM

a couple upgrades on the 996 and I guarantee it will smoke the F430, plus u can keep your extra $100K

numerouno 04-07-2005 03:52 AM

Anyway I'm sure that even the 997 turbo will be beaten by the upcomung 430 CS

Ghostbat 04-07-2005 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johns
a couple upgrades on the 996 and I guarantee it will smoke the F430, plus u can keep your extra $100K

I think the Turbo S is upgraded to 450bhp already..

mindgam3 04-07-2005 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrari550
Quote:

Originally Posted by mindgam3
Considering the 997 S is about as fast as the 996 GT3 and that was miles faster than the 360, i suspect the 997 Turbo S will be a faster car unfortunately :(

Yeah i agree, chances are it will be faster. But the F430 will always be more desirable and the #1 choice for me.

indeed, i'd take a 355/360/430 over a 997 turbo s anyday

Mopsdrops 04-07-2005 09:21 AM

Nice, glad the Ferrari won this battle, since I'm not really a Porsche Freak, but they are still very good cars.

ae86_16v 04-07-2005 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Nuno|
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostbat
I'm assuming it's the 996 Turbo S! A better comparison IMO is between the F430 and the upcoming 997 Turbo.

Yeah, of course. :) We'll have to wait a little for the F430 vs. 997 Turbo comparison...

I am surprise that the Turbo could not catch up after hitting full boost. I guess the F430 really is that fast . . .

nejcdolinsek 04-07-2005 12:47 PM

Thanks for the comparison! :D

In any case, I don't think the two cars are in the same league: I have a hard time comparing performance figures of forced induction engines vs. natural aspirated ones. For me, NA > Forced induction.

blah 04-07-2005 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by numerouno
Anyway I'm sure that even the 997 turbo will be beaten by the upcomung 430 CS

thats why you compare the CS to the GT2 or GT3. Also i think id take the Porsche over the ferrari for realiability, and drivability. I think id take a Gallardo over a 430 too, at least when lambo upgrades the HP numbers and makes a RWD version.

SFDMALEX 04-07-2005 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindgam3
Considering the 997 S is about as fast as the 996 GT3 and that was miles faster than the 360, i suspect the 997 Turbo S will be a faster car unfortunately :(

Dunno why but I doubt it.

mindgam3 04-07-2005 04:26 PM

Well going by 'ring times

7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2
7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo
8:07 - Porsche 996 GT3
8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena
8:17 - Porsche 996 C2

a 996 GT3 is about 10 seconds faster than a 996 C2 and a 996 turbo is about 10 seconds quicker still.

So if a 997 C2 S is about as fast as 996 GT3; if gaps between the models stay roughly the same then the 997 turbo will be about 10 seconds quicker than the 996 turbo.... which is about 20 seconds a lap faster than a 360... I don't really see where ferrari can get that extra 20 seconds from to be honest....then you've got the turbo S which will be faster still...

Obviously this is just a rough guide but I really doubt the turbo will be slower than the 430...

But whatever i'd take the fezza any day of the week

|Nuno| 04-07-2005 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blah
Also i think id take the Porsche over the ferrari for realiability

*coughRMSleakscough*


Anyway, for the 996 TT S vs. F430 comparison I think the Ferrari did great, both in the track and on a straight line.

Like it has happened before, the Magazine beaten Ferrari's official numbers, which is only a good thing. :D

I'd like to know the course in which they did the test tough...

And while 1.6 seconds isn't a big difference, we have to take into acount that we're talking about a small track... And well, the Mag who did the test does have "friendly" connections with Porsche, so...

As for the 997 TT vs. F430 discussion that's going on, I think the 997 will be at least on pair with the F430, but I'd be surprised if the difference (for both sides) was big. Porsche's biggest advantage is the fact the the 997 Turbo will be released after the F430, so they know what they have to do to beat it (performance wise).

And like some have said, even if the 997 Turbo was MUCH faster than the F430, I'd take the Ferrari any day over it... One of the reasons is the fact that I hate the looks of the 997 series.


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