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pzgren 02-21-2005 11:36 AM

New RS4 Presentation on 22.01.05
 
Hey guys - i've found in several audi forums that tomorrow will be the presentation of the new rs4. but i cannot found some information. It could be possible 'cause tomorrow ist the annual press conference in ingoldstadt.

these are the pics posted on the audi-forums:

http://img232.exs.cx/img232/9847/newrs4029kw.th.jpg http://img68.exs.cx/img68/3230/newrs4018uk.th.jpg http://img68.exs.cx/img68/9769/rs4article8ww.th.jpg

does anyone have more information about that?

TT 02-21-2005 12:09 PM

No infos at all but I am puzzled too. BTW it is possible that it will be presented at Geneva Motorshow next month too ;)

pzgren 02-21-2005 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TT
at Geneva Motorshow next month too ;)

that would be very nice, we'll see

ferrarif1fan89 02-21-2005 02:27 PM

^^^i think the m3 will always be more of a drivers car. it will be challenged, but definately not beaten.

Just_me 02-21-2005 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brembo
lets not go off the walls with that discussion again.....but hell yeah it will be beaten......... :lol:


you never change do you ;)

There is a presentation of the new RS4 right now, hopefully we see pics later today.

Just_me 02-21-2005 04:14 PM

Latest info 4,2 FSI with 309 KW (420 HP),

pzgren 02-21-2005 05:33 PM

it's very funny. if you read the posts in the audi forums that are rs4 related, they all go crazy about tomorrow... :)

just read in different forums that pics etc should be online in a few hours, but no one could confirm this message. we'll see.

btw brembo:
:D http://img61.exs.cx/img61/3929/brembo7dw.th.jpg

mindgam3 02-21-2005 05:35 PM

M3 will have 410hp, RS4, around 420hp. M3 will undoubtedly be around 150-200kg less than RS4 given recent figures, i know which one ill go for ;)

DjPtsatsot 02-21-2005 05:59 PM

Re: New RS4 Presentation on 22.01.05
 
The presentation is part of a "25 years for Quattro" Celebration. Along side the RS4 the new Audi suv the Q7 will be debuted. The Ski-Jump idea is from some time ago when an Audi 100 quattro drove up a ski jump to the top to prove the Quattro's abilities.

Pictures are said to be released at 12AM Germany time aka about 6PM Eastern time. Can't wait :)

Just_me 02-21-2005 06:14 PM

Re: New RS4 Presentation on 22.01.05
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DjPtsatsot
The presentation is part of a "25 years for Quattro" Celebration. Along side the RS4 the new Audi suv the Q7 will be debuted. The Ski-Jump idea is from some time ago when an Audi 100 quattro drove up a ski jump to the top to prove the Quattro's abilities.

Pictures are said to be released at 12AM Germany time aka about 6PM Eastern time. Can't wait :)

a little teaser

http://www.donaukurier.de/storage/pi...0_in_rs4-1.jpg
http://www.donaukurier.de/storage/pi...1_in_rs4-2.jpg

420 HP
160 MPH
0-60 MPH in 4.8 seconds
430 Nm

Schwalbe 02-21-2005 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pzgren
it's very funny. if you read the posts in the audi forums that are rs4 related, they all go crazy about tomorrow... :)

Yeah! currently that's crazy on every Audi Websites :silly: , there's a lot of speculations about this mighty //RS4 ! :twisted:

While passing this is too funny! LOL! Nice one pzgren. :wink:
http://img61.exs.cx/img61/3929/brembo7dw.th.jpg


At the beginning, the revealing of the new B7 RS4 was planned for Geneva Motorshow in March, but with this presentation at "Audi Piazza" im Ingolstadt I believe that we will see it earlier than envisaged. That's cool! :D

25 years of quattro presentation :arrow: http://www.25quattro.com/

Schwalbe 02-21-2005 07:03 PM

The new Audi B7 RS4. :twisted:

http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/al...-%20EU/005.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/al...-%20EU/004.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/al...-%20EU/003.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/al...-%20EU/001.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/al...-%20EU/002.jpg
http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/al...-%20EU/001.jpg

More pictures, details and wallpapers here :
:arrow: http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...cle_1061.shtml

*Video of the RS4 Presentation at "Audi Piazza" in Ingolstadt.*
:arrow: http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...ch%20video.MOV

Just_me 02-21-2005 07:07 PM

Leadership through Passion
Audi RS 4

New dimensions in driving dynamics combined with innovative ideas and concepts – and, in addition, exciting lines and a level of equipment living up to even the highest luxury performance standards: The new Audi RS 4 combines the latest high-performance motoring qualities offered by quattro GmbH in a thoroughbred sports saloon with supreme everyday driving qualities in the premium segment. Indeed, the new RS 4 is the top-of-the-range model in the A4 series, a development all-new from the ground up.

Numerous technical achievements – many of which hail from motorsport – give the new Audi RS 4 its unique class and character. These features include the high engine speed concept now being introduced for the first time in a production Audi, innovative FSI technology, as well as the latest generation of quattro drive with asymmetric/dynamic distribution of torque. Developing a maximum output of 420 bhp, the V8 revs up to a speed of 8250 rpm. With its displacement of 4163 cc, this outstanding engine exceeds the magical barrier of 100 bhp per litre truly outstanding in a production saloon. Maximum torque of 430 Nm comes at 5500 rpm in this very compact engine, with 90 per cent of the engine’s torque consistently available between 2250 and 7600 rpm. The result is excellent muscle and pulling force at all times, enabling the driver whenever he – or she – wishes to drive in truly relaxed style without frequent gear changes.

Audi has chosen its trendsetting and groundbreaking FSI technology for the RS 4 saloon, direct gasoline injection ensuring even more effective combustion of the fuel/air mixture and, as a result, an even better power yield. This is matched by the highly responsive development of power, the RS 4 accelerating to 100 km/h in 4.8 seconds and reaching 200 km/h in 16.6 seconds. Top speed is cut off electronically at 250 km/h.


Audi’s FSI technology has already proven its qualities impressively in Audi’s four-time Le Mans winner, the Audi R8.

A further essential point in the brief given to Audi’s development engineers was to optimise the car’s power-to-weight ratio, avoiding every superfluous gram on the Audi RS 4. Accordingly, virtually every component was checked and cross-checked for minimum weight. The front wheel arches and the engine compartment lid are therefore made of aluminium, just like most components on the chassis and suspension. The specially designed RS bucket seats, in turn, are not only very light, but also offer extremely good body support in every situation.

The result is a power-to-weight ratio of just 3.93 kilos per bhp – a figure truly reminiscent of a thoroughbred sports car, which would not even have been conceivable just a few years ago in a midrange saloon.

New generation of quattro drive

The challenge, of course, is to get all this power on to the road in perfect style and with optimum handling. And for no less than 25 years, Audi’s answer to all the particular requirements in this respect has been that magical name “quattro”. Now the latest generation of Audi’s permanent four-wheel drive featured for the first time in the RS 4 offers asymmetric/dynamic torque distribution and a self-locking Torsen centre differential, making a significant contribution in enabling the RS 4 with its sports suspension to enter new dimensions in driving dynamics. Indeed, Audi quattro technology still provides traction when other drive concepts have long reached their limits. And in this case quattro drive is further enhanced by Audi’s DRC Dynamic Ride Control, significantly reducing both body roll and dive.

The brakes also enter new dimensions, an 18-inch brake system ensuring optimum stopping power. The cross-drilled, inner-vented brake discs at the front measure 365 millimetres in diameter, as opposed to 324-millimetre brake discs at the rear. Flow-optimised ventilation geometry incorporating Naca jets on the underfloor of the car ensures first-class cooling of the brakes under all conditions.




As a result, brake fading is significantly reduced even under extreme loads, for example on the race track.

Focusing on the RS 4, quattro GmbH has carefully re-aligned the latest generation of ESP to the particular properties and features of this high-performance sports saloon. With the system intervening later and for a shorter period than on a conventional car, driving dynamics are improved significantly. The integrated dry braking function in wet weather, in turn, ensures additional safety on the road, with the brake pads being unnoticeably placed on the brake discs at regular intervals in order to dry the brakes for instantaneous use whenever required.

Design

The RS 4 features racing technology in civilian clothes. While many of its features look similar to the new Audi A4, the RS 4 is far more than just a “fast” derivative of Audi’s highly successful midrange saloon. Quite simply because the car is an almost entirely brand-new development tailored to the highest performance requirements.

The single-frame radiator grille, the rear section with the distinctly horizontal orientation of the car’s lines, and the side surfaces with the shoulder line plastically filling in the car’s contours, all prove that the RS 4 is a member of the A4 family. However, the radiator grille in diamond look, the additional air intake scoops in the front section, as well as the wheels developed specifically for the RS 4, clearly set the car aside from a “normal” Audi A4.

The newly designed rear air dam encompassing two extra-large tailpipes as well as the discreet but highly effective spoiler integrated in the luggage compartment lid and the rear side panels all bear clear testimony to the saloon’s dynamic driving potential also in terms of their looks. Compared with the Audi A4, the entire body of the car has been lowered by 30 millimetres. And at the same time the development engineers at quattro GmbH have widened the car’s track both front and rear. At the end of the day, however, all these modifications to the body of the car are significant not only in terms of design, but also above all in terms of function.



Inside, the RS 4 combines the straightforward function of a sports car with the luxurious ambience so typical of all Audi models. The dominating materials are leather, aluminium, and carbon. But at the same time the RS 4 comes with all the additional qualities so typical of a genuine sports car.

This superiority becomes clear immediately when you take your seats in the car: The RS bucket seats with their high side sections provide excellent support. A further feature of these bucket seats is the control button on each seat for inflating the side support elements adjusting perfectly to the driver’s anatomy. The sports steering wheel tapering down at the bottom and the engine starter button on the centre console, in turn, are also clearly reminiscent of motorsport, just like the aluminium pedals.

You start the engine of the Audi RS 4 by pressing the starter button housed conveniently in the centre console right next to the driver. Pressing the sports button in the steering wheel, in turn, the driver is able to modify the gas pedal control map, giving the engine even sharper and more direct response.

Features and equipment

Driving the Audi RS 4 means driving a sports car without making any concessions. Right from the start, therefore, the RS 4 comes with virtually all the features already boasted by the Audi A4. Apart from a wide range of advanced safety components, this also means high-comfort automatic air conditioning, central locking with remote control, and electric window lifts at the front. Further features of the RS 4 include the acoustic parking system at the front and rear, the Concert radio system, as well as sports suspension with variable damper control (DRC). Furthermore, the purchaser of an Audi RS 4 can also opt for a particularly high standard of comfort amenities such as Audi’s navigation system plus or dynamic adaptive light headlights literally guiding the driver round bends in the road.

jon_s 02-21-2005 07:18 PM

OMG I have died and gone to heaven!

JiggaStyles09 02-21-2005 08:57 PM

wow beautiful car, i love the styling of it. i have always been a big fan of the A4 styling and this just takes it to another level. cant wait for some road tests of this one. will this be available in the US? i didnt see anything about that in the article but i may have overlooked something.

chest3r 02-21-2005 08:59 PM

It looks very good IMO. :o

Nothing new but always very good :P

I don't wanna be a bad guy but the new M3 will beat that :lol: :lol: :lol:

Schwalbe 02-21-2005 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chest3r
I don't wanna be a bad guy but the new M3 will beat that :lol: :lol: :lol:

You can always dream about that. :wink:

budagboy2 02-21-2005 09:25 PM

Car looks amazing...here are some more pictures i found :)
http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...%20(Small).JPG
http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...%20(Small).JPG
http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...%20(Small).JPG
  • http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi/25quattro/RS4%20Mirror1%20(Small).JPG
http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...%20(Small).JPG
http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...%20(Small).JPG
THATS A PRETTY ENGINE :D
http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...%20(Small).JPG
http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...%20(Small).JPG

dutchmasterflex 02-21-2005 09:33 PM

damn.. thats some nice marketing..

i still cant stand the new huge ass grills audi is implementing on their new line up...

blah 02-21-2005 10:14 PM

so this is coming to the US right? Looks pretty good. I wonder what beast AMG will be striking back with. From what i heard it will be a N/A 5.5 liter or a 6.3 V8 N/A. Although the 6.3 is definately going in the E Class i dont know bout the C class.

budagboy2 02-21-2005 10:17 PM

yea its coming to the u.s.

neilo63 02-21-2005 10:49 PM

Good god i want the AVANT variant in yellow... It looks so brutal, the figures are astonishing. :twisted:

blah 02-21-2005 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by chest3r
I don't wanna be a bad guy but the new M3 will beat that :lol: :lol: :lol:

You can always dream about that. :wink:

and you better hope and pray that its raining when the E90 M3 meets the RS4.

c_theodoros 02-22-2005 12:24 AM

I never really liked Audis but this car is simply stunning !!!

but... lets wait for the

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/3728/144e90m34ms.jpg

... and we will see 8)

styla21 02-22-2005 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c_theodoros
I never really liked Audis but this car is simply stunning !!!

but... lets wait for the

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/3728/144e90m34ms.jpg

... and we will see 8)

Yea cool if Photoshops were proper prototypes or planned in going into prodution...... Which this car is not. Are you not satisfied w/ the M6 as it is?

Schwalbe 02-22-2005 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blah
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by chest3r
I don't wanna be a bad guy but the new M3 will beat that :lol: :lol: :lol:

You can always dream about that. :wink:

and you better hope and pray that its raining when the E90 M3 meets the RS4.

For the moment that remains to be seen. If it's like the last competition experience (B5 RS4 vs E46 M3), the B7 RS4 doesn't need to have "special conditions" to beat the next E90 M3.

c_theodoros 02-22-2005 01:09 AM

Quote:

Yea cool if Photoshops were proper prototypes or planned in going into prodution...... Which this car is not. Are you not satisfied w/ the M6 as it is?
^ r u referring to my post ? if yes then please make me clear what do you mean that this car is not going into production; do you mean that the specific image does not give us a good idea of how the E90 M3 will look like? And yes I am satisfied with the M6 8) (despite the fact that it took me sometime to appreciate its design).

findleybeast 02-22-2005 01:15 AM

the new RS4 is looking oh so sexy. I can't wait to finally see one on this side of the pond. I do like the exterior of the outgoing model slightly more, but god knows this will be quite the performance machine. I'm very happy to see it'll be available in a proper manual, but does anyone know if it will be available with a DSG gearbox?

Schwalbe 02-22-2005 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by findleybeast
does anyone know if it will be available with a DSG gearbox?

According to "EVO Magazine: Thursday 4th November 2004" Audi is preparing a 450bhp version with seven-speed Tiptronic gearbox for the RS4, utilising its acclaimed DSG technology. Extensive weight reduction is planned, with many aluminium panels.

pzgren 02-22-2005 02:17 AM

i like it - the first impression is good. it looks that the use a few parts from the rs4, especially the back.
the figures are not bad, but i'd like to know how heavy it is.

pzgren 02-22-2005 03:29 AM

so we definitely gonna see it at geneva, i'm wondering how this car looks in real


btw - i like it that the demo car is yellow :D so it will be a small change from my s4 to the rs4... 8)

blah 02-22-2005 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by blah
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by chest3r
I don't wanna be a bad guy but the new M3 will beat that :lol: :lol: :lol:

You can always dream about that. :wink:

and you better hope and pray that its raining when the E90 M3 meets the RS4.

For the moment that remains to be seen. If it's like the last competition experience (B5 RS4 vs E46 M3), the B7 RS4 doesn't need to have "special conditions" to beat the next E90 M3.

I wouldnt exactly compare a RS model to the regular M3 model, atleast as in the case of the older models. CSL vs RS4 now thats a better comparison.

stradale 02-22-2005 05:24 AM

It looks impressive, but at the same time there are some details that I dislike. First there's the awful new Audi grille on it. I still hate that. IMO that thing is worse than anything Bangle ever did to a BMW. The front spoiler with those gills somehow looks cheap too and the wheels don't really go together with the usual understated Audi appearance either.

I have no doubt this will be a good and monstrously quick car, but as for now the styling leaves me rather underwhelmed. :|

noosee 02-22-2005 05:31 AM

Looks very nice :D And this time weight is "only" 1650 kg.
Which is very good for audi.

But I think M3 will be faster :) at least a little bit :D

|Nuno| 02-22-2005 06:41 AM

Small video:

http://s117957141.onlinehome.us/Audi...ch%20video.MOV

It's a Quicktime file, right click "Save As".

mindgam3 02-22-2005 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by findleybeast
does anyone know if it will be available with a DSG gearbox?

According to "EVO Magazine: Thursday 4th November 2004" Audi is preparing a 450bhp version with seven-speed Tiptronic gearbox for the RS4, utilising its acclaimed DSG technology. Extensive weight reduction is planned, with many aluminium panels.

They'll never get 450bhp out of a 4.2 NA V8 :P

Latest Autocar reports 414bhp for the RS4

So thats 4bhp difference between the M3 and RS4 but the RS4 is gonna weigh at least 150-200kg more :P

noosee 02-22-2005 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindgam3
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by findleybeast
does anyone know if it will be available with a DSG gearbox?

According to "EVO Magazine: Thursday 4th November 2004" Audi is preparing a 450bhp version with seven-speed Tiptronic gearbox for the RS4, utilising its acclaimed DSG technology. Extensive weight reduction is planned, with many aluminium panels.

They'll never get 450bhp out of a 4.2 NA V8 :P

Latest Autocar reports 414bhp for the RS4

So thats 4bhp difference between the M3 and RS4 but the RS4 is gonna weigh at least 150-200kg more :P

Latest M3 weights 1570 kg and new RS4 1650 kg, I think that next M3 will not be lighter than current one :D at least 1600 kg.
So it will be tight :D

and to add 30 hp to 420 is not impossible.

mindgam3 02-22-2005 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noosee
Quote:

Originally Posted by mindgam3
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by findleybeast
does anyone know if it will be available with a DSG gearbox?

According to "EVO Magazine: Thursday 4th November 2004" Audi is preparing a 450bhp version with seven-speed Tiptronic gearbox for the RS4, utilising its acclaimed DSG technology. Extensive weight reduction is planned, with many aluminium panels.

They'll never get 450bhp out of a 4.2 NA V8 :P

Latest Autocar reports 414bhp for the RS4

So thats 4bhp difference between the M3 and RS4 but the RS4 is gonna weigh at least 150-200kg more :P

Latest M3 weights 1570 kg and new RS4 1650 kg, I think that next M3 will not be lighter than current one :D at least 1600 kg.
So it will be tight :D

and to add 30 hp to 420 is not impossible.

sorry, got my calculations wrong, 450 will be feasible but i doubt much more than that.

I'm sure the new M3 will be the same or lighter than the current one, and the CSL even more so ;)

and Autocars latest report says 414bhp for the RS4 ;)

noosee 02-22-2005 10:51 AM

414 bhp is the same as 420 hp
just a bit different calculation used

LotusGT1 02-22-2005 10:59 AM

Don't really like it.

Sure, it has impressive output, but it loses a bit of excusiveness the older RS4 and RS2 had. It has become a bit too mainstream. I would have hoped the S-line would be good enough to run with the AMG's and M's, for the RS-line to be the icing on the cake.

That, and the fact the grill look cheesy, together with the garish rims, I'm not all that excited.

mv 02-22-2005 11:30 AM

What a pitty they have dropped forced induction..At least they've come up with a sick steering wheel. :)

|Nuno| 02-22-2005 11:42 AM

Meh, I like it but I prefer the looks of the previous model. It's heavy, but not as much as I was expecting. The new Quattro system can only be a good thing, but it's the engine that impresses me the most; the hp and torque numbers are good, but not great...

However, the fact that it can rev all the way up to 8250rpm with a normal crank and that 90% of torque is availiable between 2250 and 7600 rpm is indeed impressive.

twboy1999 02-22-2005 12:54 PM

i think it looks awsome in every single way... specially the interior... audi has the best interior.. hands down ^^

Schwalbe 02-22-2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noosee
Looks very nice :D And this time weight is "only" 1650 kg.
Which is very good for audi.

But I think M3 will be faster :) at least a little bit :D

See these very interesting facts that will question your assertion. :wink:

RS4 B5 4,4 Kg / hp
RS4 B7 3,9 Kg / hp

BMW E46 M3 4,6 Kg / hp
BMW E46 M3 CSL 3,9 Kg / hp (same as the new B7 RS4)

Quote:

Originally Posted by brembo
But Im also kind of dissapointed that they went away from Turbo`s on their S and RS cars...... :(.......No need to go the same boring route as BMW, but its nice just to show the posers that there are no more magic involved in building a NA engine than a forced induction engine......

I understand you are dissapointed , because the old B5 RS4 with simply a chip could developed 420hp (Usual Stage 1). This is the magic of turbocharging. Perhaps with the future revealing of the Avant version of this B7 RS4 you will be able to appreciate it more. We will see...

noosee 02-22-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by noosee
Looks very nice :D And this time weight is "only" 1650 kg.
Which is very good for audi.

But I think M3 will be faster :) at least a little bit :D

See these very interesting facts that will question your assertion. :wink:

RS4 B5 4,4 Kg / hp
RS4 B7 3,9 Kg / hp

BMW E46 M3 4,6 Kg / hp
BMW E46 M3 CSL 3,9 Kg / hp (same as the new B7 RS4)

It would be very nice to see new RS4 lightened like M3 CSL with 450 hp, 150 less kilos and semi slicks Michelins.
I don't think those figures are impossible to acheave :D

Schwalbe 02-22-2005 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noosee
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44
Quote:

Originally Posted by noosee
Looks very nice :D And this time weight is "only" 1650 kg.
Which is very good for audi.

But I think M3 will be faster :) at least a little bit :D

See these very interesting facts that will question your assertion. :wink:

RS4 B5 4,4 Kg / hp
RS4 B7 3,9 Kg / hp

BMW E46 M3 4,6 Kg / hp
BMW E46 M3 CSL 3,9 Kg / hp (same as the new B7 RS4)

It would be very nice to see new RS4 lightened like M3 CSL with 450 hp, 150 less kilos and semi slicks Michelins.
I don't think those figures are impossible to acheave :D

Yeah that's true, so now it's a story to be followed... :D

schnell318 02-22-2005 02:25 PM

I´m not too keen on the extarior but the interior does look really nice, specially the seats and the steering wheel. As someone said about the wheels, i don´t think they look as good as previous models. But well to each his own.

As for the performnace I´m sure it will be stunning, but I will always prefer RWD to AWD... bring on the E90 M3 and then the CSL and then you´ll see who´s the fastest :D :D

Let´s wait and see

Schwalbe 02-22-2005 02:39 PM

http://imgs.partys-bei-uns.de/2005/2...-2005-2919.jpg

Audi Quattro Night Audi Piazza in Ingolstadt
:arrow: http://www.partys-bei-uns.de/rueckbl...olstadt/bilder

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pzgren 02-22-2005 03:38 PM

[quote="brembo"]
Quote:

Originally Posted by pzgren
Dude I tought we where on the same side, not only did you put my name and flag on a bimmer you put it on maybe the worst looking of them all........ :cry: :cry:

sorry mate, i couldn't resist. but no fear, i'm on your side.

i'm a bit disappointed of audi's enginge choice. why haven't they build a 3.0 FSI with turbos? I'm wondering how many rs4 (B5) drivers will change it against the new one.

but it's still an awesome car and it will be very close new m3!!!

ferrarif1fan89 02-22-2005 06:59 PM

wow, looks very nice. cant wait for test figures, and a test drive.


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