BMW E60 M5 manual gearbox ???
 

I came across this article at m5board.com and I was wondering if someone can confirm or add something to this story.

" Could this really be true? See the screenshot from bmwusa.com site. The rumours could might be true, and then we have a significant news for the Detroit Auto Show. The information first surfaced on a Saturday but all information was then taken down from the BMW USA site the following Sunday. Luckily we at m5board.com took a screenshot if the information. Interesting things are happening for sure for BMW M enthusiasts in North America. "

link: http://www.m5board.com/news.php?id=50

http://img115.exs.cx/img115/9648/manual7zq.jpg

Maybe just a mistake.

Or else ... this would be great news ;)

i think that may have been mis-interpreted slightly. i think they may be reffering to the fact that it is a 7 speed automated manual transmission. Although the gears are shifted by the SMG control unit, it is still a traditional manual gearbox. Synchros, countershaft and all :wink:

however, if a manual gearbox were to be made available for this car, i think they would probably make it a 6 speed box with 6th gear being a severly overdriven gear. the 7th gear on the SMG is mainly to drop revs about 500 more RPM to save fuel on long cruises. i don't think BMW would want to make you have to run through a 7 gate pattern. You might be feeling a bit more like a semitruck driver than a sports car driver after you get into 7th :wink:

wow.. i would think it's a typo.. but that would sure be some great news... I wonder what BMW has up their sleeve...?

True?...not likely

i think only mistake for many people not me is semi gearbox,
so now will be M5 without any minus, so Great car is better,

they are really offering the maual

that would be great news if it was true - like a belated release of the manual - but it was probably just a mistake made by a bmw employee

Wow, that would be awesome if it were true. A very nice gift to the automotive community.... and while i'm wishing, maybe deregulate the car so top speed in 5th, 6th, and 7th isn't all the same (155mph).

i highly doubt it is true. it is probably a typo or else BMW would have announced it earlier

More like wishful thinking on the part of M5 owners...at least BMW doesn't use torque converters on their sporty models, like some other German manufacturers.

i think that they meant that the 7 SMG is the same as the traditional manual trans... :wink:
but it would be nice if this was true, and compare the manual M5 to SMG M5 in 0 to 60 mph

^ that would be an interesting test. and on the subject of gear changing, just saw the 5th gear review of the new GTI, which has the DSG (direct shift) - the thing changes gears soooo fast. awesome technology w/ two clutches (one for even gears, one for odd). put that on some performance cars like the M5... see some real gear shift time-differences.

^ everso, this is simply a conversation there is no need to insult the intelligence of any M5 owners, especially if you own an Audi TT :lol:

You will take a TT over an M5...e39 or e60? lol...ok, you do that, I will take the e39 M5 thanks. :P

and yours just happens to be the same as a gay hairdresser. :wink:

:D
Yes TT is models car, it look like tank

I don't think we'll have a manual M5, also because it would need a new gearbox because this one is made to be electro actuated, with a stick we won't have the standard pattern ( 1', 2',3' and so on ) but a messy pattern ( something like 3' , 1' , ...

Errrm... I normally don't insult Audis, but it is true... the TT is the choice of hairdressers, models, and all kinds of women. It really is a woman's car.

Hopefully the upcoming one will change that because it won't be "cute" anymore.

if you know how to read english correctly, the add says that they offer 7-speed SMG, AS WELL as the traditional manual transmission. They are not referring the SMG is like a traditional manual transmission.. that's why i think its a typo..

^typo, or mistranslation perhaps.

Mistranslation seems to be more likely.

Will see,but im suprised- new M1,M3,M6- plane poloautomatic

Where is the AUDI attack team now? Where is your awd now to help you fight back? 8)

well since most mags said that it will have an SMG I don't know what mag your friend was reading, but from this site it does seem to be a mistranslation tho

This is very, very unlikely. Simply a miscommunication on the website controllers part. BMW would have released this information in the lead up to the cars release if it was infact true - as it has been a major gripe with some media for some time. The smg IS a manual gearbox, actuated by paddles though.

well, i can end up settling this debate in a few months when my shop foreman goes for training on the new engine. (our rep has already been to Munich for training and i can tell you that the Motor Trend article was NOT fucking around when they said the engine electronics on this engine rival supercomputers. BMW has done away with the pre-cat O2 sensor on this one guys :shock: )

once we start getting training on the car we will know for sure wether a proper manual is going to be offered. Or i can just ask our rep next time he is in town, but i'm not sure if he will know since he went about 2 months ago and this seems to be a rather recent development.

Prolly so.

It seems that a manual gearbox is being designed for the North America market,

follow the link to check it out:

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...9&postcount=77

:shock: :o :D There seems to be a lot of credability to this. One question worth asking though - how long do you think it will be after launch that the manual option becomes available? 6 months? A year? Whatever it is, this is great news :twisted:

Good catch. It would be nice for them to offer a regular tranny.

But I am afraid that you might be right.

In the ad it does say "and an optional..." I don't know about you, but that sounds to me like 2 different 'boxes. God I hope they do bring it out.