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challengestradale 11-09-2004 06:30 PM

to add or not tu add supercharger?
 
hi guys!!!

I'm thinking in buying a Ford Mondeo this December and install to it a supercharger

what are the advantages and disadvantages?

what modifications should I need to do?

I'm trying not to add a lot of money to the car...

Evo 11-09-2004 07:24 PM

Re: to add or not tu add supercharger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by challengestradale

I'm trying not to add a lot of money to the car...

If you stick with what you said above then forget supercharging you car.. Because it's expensive, and I don't just mean the supercharger unite it self.. I'm talking about maintainance .. The car will use a lot more oil then it usual dose and fuel is another thing to consider too.. And the stress your putting your car into is a lot so don't expect it to live a lot..


But if you changed your mind and decide to spend lot of money on the car then go ahead it's fun... :lol: :D

initiala4 11-10-2004 12:51 PM

By adding any of those...you will get more wear and tear. Also you might see some problems that you later might have to pay. If you play you gotta pay for it.

PaulGT2164 11-10-2004 02:06 PM

any forced induction will be a expensive idea

better stick with the cheaper upgrades, intake, exhaust, chip, etc etc

challengestradale 11-10-2004 04:36 PM

thanks guys!

i'll work with the numbers and see how much i can expend!!! i really like too put some extra power to that car... i the chasis can support more than 170 bhp and with that 6-speed manual gearbox dirving it will give me a lot of fun :lol:

another cuestion... I friend of mine buy an Seat Ibiza Sport and want to buy a K&N air filter... what are the advantages and disadvantages of it?
more hp? more gas consumption? etc...

thanks!!!

Evo 11-10-2004 07:27 PM

0.5 ~ 1 hp. hehehe.. It's more sound than performance really... And it looks better than a stock filter if you ask me..

TransAm 11-10-2004 11:11 PM

The newer 'ST' versions of the mondeo are up to 220hp (the last of the old shape they sold in the UK)

Maybe you can have a look on ebay.co.uk and find some stock ST220 parts for next to nothing that someone has discarded due to their own upgrades?

Shipping might cost a bit but if you plan ahead seafrieght is only 6 weeks....

Just my 2 pesos worth 8)

oscargarza88 11-10-2004 11:30 PM

hey what parto of mexico r u from?
and about the mondeo i think its cheaper to buy another car than supercharging the mondeo... im thinking like th cupra r, i like that car.
and about the filter, well as thyu said u dont gail alot of hp but its a step u have to make if u want to upgrade more.

adamk24 11-11-2004 07:13 AM

The latter model mondeos are good cars. I like them alot :mrgreen: The supercharger really depends on how much boost its running and what company makes it, but Id be willing to say you could get a 70Hp bump in power with out any real reliability conserns. Just a few Questions though.
Whats the Compression Ratio in a v6 Mondeo, and how strong are the stock rods? (how much hp can they take before they redecorate your block with holes?)

challengestradale 11-11-2004 07:30 PM

I'm from Monterrey Mexico

because of one family member works at Ford I'll get it at a REALLY wood price... that's why I can't aford the Seat Leon Cupra R... I really love that car

about the compression ratio is 9.8:1

how d oi know how strang are the stock rods?

I'm just planning for a supercharger with 4-6 psi not looking por a competition car... just for a little of more fun! :lol:

it is V6 2.5L 170 bhp@6000 rpm and 162 lb/ft @ 4250 rpm

do you know how much could i gain with that 4-6-8 psi supercharger???

its my first tune of a car

thanks

anything you think i should know before???

i just read about the basics of superchargers at an article at superchargersonline.com and know the basics of mechanics....

adamk24 11-12-2004 01:34 AM

Look online for other people that have boosted their mondeo's, and see how much power they can make before people upgrade the internals. But with 4-6 psi, id be willing to bet you can get over 210 at the wheels. :mrgreen:

oscargarza88 11-12-2004 01:57 AM

from mty?! really! me 2!
from what part of mty?
and if u want to have more fun u can get another ford i would say instead of the mondeo... unless the special price only applies to th emondeo...

OVERLORD_CHRIS 11-18-2004 11:21 PM

Even though you said you don't want to spend alot, get Forged Rods and Pistons, that way when you decide to SC or TC your motor, the last thing going through your head is your bottom end comming apart, and you can run higher Psi if you realy wanted too.
I almost forgot, the US version of your car for performance is the SVT Countor, although it only came with 200hp, it had a slightly stronger motor to play with, you can also start there for parts.

mv 11-22-2004 04:08 PM

if you want a powerful car for lesser money i would recommend getting a used car with forced induction (turbo) in its stock form and then installing a performance ECU.
to be more specific i think the A4 powered by a 1.8T is just perfect

bullet_1800 11-26-2004 02:36 AM

As i understand you are not looking to buy another car than a mondeo.I would agree with MV and go for the audi but thats up to you and your pocket. To agree with the first statements i would have to say that a lot of money would be spent on a supercharging and the maintenance afterwards.You should also consider things like suspension. brakes and other safety factors that would be probleming your car with all that extra power.

coloradosilver 11-26-2004 02:50 AM

challengestradale:

Hey man, I used to own a 1999 Ford Contour SVT. It's alsost the same car as yours. Same 2.5L and all. I went and put on a Vortch Surpercharger and it was totally awesome. The best mod that I ever made for that car. The only other things that I had done to it were a Borla exhaust system and a short-throw shifter. I never had any issues with the system or the car. That particular car and engine is quite durable. It can handle the power without much risk at all.

And almost all vortech systems are designed to be put onto the stock cars without risk of damage. They know what they're doing.

I don't know if they still make the system or not..but even if you can pick one up used it would be a great addition.

findleybeast 11-26-2004 03:31 AM

another plus for a K&N filter, in addition to the (minor) hp gain and sporty sound, is the fact that you can clean them yourself and that they come with a lifetime warranty... filter replacement costs can nearly cancel out the price of buying a K&N


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